Israel Sniper Killed Voluteer Female Medic, 100 Protesters Wounded
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You're delegitimizing the arguments of people who want to hold Israel accountable when you do this.
won't happen, the US military targets emergency responders in drone strikes
https://i.redd.it/ol4q84s3jm111.jpg
Apparently taken moments before she got shot.
Israel needs to answer for this. This can't be swept under the rug.
Yeah sorry I should have looked closer, there's loads of misinformation going around now. There's a short clip of her being treated by doctors, but I'm not sure I should link it. I saw it on Reddit.
Nope its in complete compliance with the Geneva Contravention
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1002888667512360960
I would just like to point out that the Israeli snipers didn't just fire one shot, or two shots, but several shots at the 20-year-old Gazan medic woman, Razan al-Najjar, until she was dead. This is what Israel is blatantly doing to people trying to save the Palestinians from their attempted genocide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVbRjvLOTYw&feature=youtu.be
What the actual fuck, man?!
the more saddening fact of this particular matter is how almost nobody is aware of how the palestinians are actually being treated by the Israeli Regime. the average person's knowledge vaguely correlates with media coverage - which, if it isn't already abundantly clear, you should not trust - of the events happening. and on top of that, you have actual internet propaganda organizations trying their damndest all over the internet to muddy the waters and supply misinformation.
interesting times we live in!
You see she PROBABLY had a metal object in her hand to help treat the wounded and that MIGHT'VE looked like a gun so obviously they are within their full right to shoot a 20 year old woman wearing paramedic gear, you can never be too safe.
Dont worry, acc to sgman these paramedics could be hamas in disguise. Thats why they keep pushing unconscious people off their stretchers, they might have weapons!
You're right, instead of killing medics they killed millions of people that had nothing to do with the fucking war
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Honestly as an Israeli I'm ashamed that this shit happens and that our people always try to justify this. I wish the IDF was more transparent and admit when it fucks up in cases like this.
Not trying to disclaim that the female medic was killed, but the YouTube video that you provided is from an entirely different incident, and portrays officers that appear to be shooting in the air, shoving and trying to prevent some medics from transporting some injured guy. Still a shitty situation but it's not related to this incident.
This is attempted irony, right?
I think it's pretty obvious
the Israeli government and military are deliberately trying to murder the entirety of the Palestinian people
when you shoot unarmed paramedics trying to help the wounded, you're the bad guy and you're seeking genocide
Oh for the love of God YOU ARE NOT HELPING
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
Please look up the actual meaning of Genocide.
Again for the billionth motherfucking time. You people need to quit comparing these minor terrible acts with shit thats far more grandiose/fucked up.
I know Israel is doing some stupid shit. But for fuck sake people don't throw logic out the goddamn window.
So your response to "the US should do something about it" is "it's suicide"?
You can't do anything to discourage Israel from committing war crimes? Any and all moves would result in Israel cutting ties with the US and isolating themselves?
If Israel told you to whore yourself out, would you do it for fear of "losing" because otherwise that would be siding against them?
The self-proclaimed nation of rights and liberties, most powerful on Earth, not willing to condemn human rights violating acts. Pathetic.
Israel needs the US way more than the other way around. We could easily stopped this if our government actually gave a damn.
I'll be impressed to see how some of our favourite Facepunchers manage to spin this around to make the Palestinians look like the aggressors, and Israel the self-defenders. I'm already getting spammed with ratings
Yes. It is POLITICAL suicide.
Israel is allied with the US. The Palestinians are unlikely to be allies in the foreseeable future, regardless of our course of action, and indeed generally have close ties with hostile nations.
Likewise if France were doing the same in Africa, it isn't as though we would sanction France. The French are allies and any alliances we possess in Africa are not likely going to supersede the alliance with France.
Nations generally favor pragmatism in the international politics scene. That differs from doing what is right.
The right thing to do is to not shoot medics and to condemn the act. The pragmatic thing to do is to not sour relations with the only regional power we can realistically have relations with.
If you are constantly hoping that nations will do the right thing, then you are in for a great deal of disappointment. If you want it changed, then I suggest getting into politics and finding ways to sell doing the right thing as being the pragmatic choice. =/
because you cant be convinced with logic as evidenced by other threads and you're obsessed with the JIDF to the point of including it in your banner, i'd rather not spend a few hours of my time banging my head against the wall because you wont look at sources I posted
i think that it's messed up that she was killed and it needs to be explained/investigated.
You know what would be political suicide? The state of Israel cutting ties with the US because they said "hey, stop fucking shooting unarmed people."
We give them billions of dollars and military support every year, which they absolutely need in order to maintain their power in the region. They need us more than we need them. Do we have to wait for the death camps to pop up before we do anything, or is that not "pragmatic?" Put pressure on them and they WILL buckle. US foreign policy with Israel has less to do with realpolitik and more to do with the fact that they don't give a fuck about the Palestinian people.
I'm not sure if this was intentional, but nothing you have said contradicts my post.
The American people don't give a fuck about Palestinians. Which is any action taken to protect them from a regional ally is not politically sound. You lose support domestically for essentially zero benefit for the country.
Combine the fact that Americans are indifferent to the plight of Palestinians with the fact that Israel plays a strategically useful role in military deployment, and a large role in military research and development, and you do not have a situation where the US is likely to act against them under anything but the most extreme of circumstances.
We could likely get away with a "wow stop doing that", but we aren't going to back that up with anything serious because they could also do a lot of damage by doing things like selling advanced weapon systems to folks we don't much care for.
If you can produce a course of action that leads to something other than all negatives for the US, then I'm happy to hear it. It is a shitty situation that only seems to have awful and slightly less awful outcomes.
No.
You absolutely can condemn this act, even from a pragmatic standpoint. Being allies has never meant tolerating each and every thing that the other nation does. Our countries being allies hasn't stopped my government from criticising yours for pulling out of the Paris agreement, for instance.
This whole dick sucking act isn't the result of "pragmatic" reasoning. A pragmatic approach would be to realize how much this behavior makes you look like fools on the international scene, especially when you go against most countries in the UN with your vetos.
For what it's worth:
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/IDF-probing-shooting-death-of-Palestinian-nurse-558982
The In-plain-sight-yet-Hidden Israeli Palestinian Genocide
Notice all the sudden pro Israel bullshit on this page? Interesting
Enlighten me how this is classified as genocide despite the yearly increase of the Palestinian population.
Israel's dependency on USA is a mixed one currently, for existential and for providence. They need a strong guy to validate the existence of a rogue nation, to buy time to grow independent.
[img]https://preview.ibb.co/fs3tdT/Screenshot_20180604_054839_1.png[/img]
It has nothing to do with population, stop supporting genocide.
so wheres the killing fields where Palestinians are dying? Explain to me how it's genocide and actually explain, don't leave a smug rating because you can't actually be bothered to bring up proof.
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