What's causing unusual bullet wounds among Gaza protesters? - Polidicks

Reread my post and pay extra special attention to the part that says "in the context of the middle east"

Reread jamison and joost's post while paying extra special attention and realize that what you're saying is: "It's weird to want human rights to be respected in the middle east and Israel." I assume that's not what you mean. Perhaps it would be best to clarify your stance.

in the context of the middle east If you cant decipher my cryptic message then I cant help you. Quit trying to imply shit when my post is as clear as day.

"Wanting human rights to be respected in the context of the middle East is weird"? I'm sorry, that doesn't make more sense. It's like you didn't really read the posts you were replying to. If nobody understands your post the way you intended it to be then the problem probably lies with your own expression.

I thought it was the opposite. By slowing down inside the victim they direct all of their energy into the victim, creating a bigger shock and a larger wound cavity.

The only person having trouble with this is you hun. Ill let you work this petty nonsense out on your own.

If you paid attention to the ratings you'd see I'm not the only one who thinks you're shit at communicating your ideas properly, "hun". Perhaps you should try to be more careful about the way you express yourself next time you chip in about a touchy issue, bud. And also not double down on the bullshit once called out on it. It's fine to make mistakes, but not admitting them is less excusable.

Are we talking about shooting moose? Every caliber institutionally used on unarmored humans penetrates well into vital organs in all but fringe cases.

What in the god damn are you talking about. They cause massive internal bleeding with the torn tissue alone. In a lot of cases, a FMJ rounds that pass through vital organs can still somewhat function with a hole. HPs literally turn organs and muscles into ground beef.

You know I could actually see the justification in use of HP rounds by the fact they reduce the risk of over-penetration. If someone within those crowds does pose a legitimate threat, I don't personally believe the ammunition used against them particularly matters (so long as it isn't designed to prolong suffering) outside of its potential for collateral. But then the IDF's judgement of what constitutes a legitimate threat has proven questionable at best. If people showing up to protests keep getting shot at, of course they're going to want to start shooting back at some point, and that's what both the Israeli government and Hamas want.

A modern intermediate caliber FMJ will tumble and fragment and do more damage than a HP will, which is why theyre used over HPs, including HPs inability to penetrate body armor. As I said, a HP round may stop before it gets to anything vital.

If you believe the damage caused by a projectile is limited purely to what's in its path, you haven't informed yourself on terminal ballistics.

I'm well aware thanks professor

Hydrostatic shock is most likely a myth.

FMJ rounds tend to penetrate more often than "tumble and fragment". FMJs carry a lot more kinetic energy due to the bullet being a solid core than an "hollow" one. If they do split, its not going to shrapnel nearly as much as an dum dum or HP. To add onto this, FMJs tend to leave the body completely making a hole from one side to the other, HPs explode outward and stay in the body leaving pieces of lead all around the wound. https://youtu.be/J08rYrWzwug Saying HP is less lethal is extremely false when it comes to unarmored people. That's why most gun owners buy FMJs for the range (because they are cheaper) and HPs for protection. Besides, wounding is much better than direct kills because now other soldiers near the wounded soldier have to stop what they are doing and administer aid or carry them off the battlefield.

HPs are good for self defense because they dont over penetrate and hit a bystander and dont carry lethal velocity when going through a wall. HPs lose momentum very quickly when they hit bone, which your average human body is chock full of. That loss of momentum decreases lethality where as an FMJ tends to tumble and fragment after hitting bone. HPs tenancy to wound instead of kill is why they're banned in warfare. In the eyes of those who signed these convention treaties, a thousand dead soldiers is better than a thousand maimed and suffering soldiers. The US never signed the Hogue so they would be in the right to use HPs up until body armor became prevelant and they never did for good reason. Even now, the type of enemies the US has been fighting for the past 20 years didnt have access to armor.

great post, really showed him

Thanks for chiming in, I always value more critiques on my posting style which apparently is the thing yo do in this thread.

Your post had literally no content in it besides saying you knew something you demonstrated no knowledge of, and an attempt at a kind of "witty" snipe

Ok, any other useful criticisms you can give me? Btw, him telling me I'm wrong doesn't mean I am. You telling me I'm uninformed doesnt mean I am. Morbo perpetuating a potential myth started by .40 fanboys doesnt make him an expert.

If you're not wrong, then prove it, don't make snarky posts like that

Yea thats what I've been doing with my posts in this thread thanks for the advice. Excuse me for responding with snark to a guy who was talking down to me. Can I go now officer or am I being detained?

I really don't care how you feel about it. It was a dumb post so I'm gonna bring it up. No matter how many zingers you can pull out of your ass to make yourself feel right

I dont know what you want from me man. I didnt ask for your advice so i dont know why youre getting all butthurt because Im not taking this life lesson to heart.

I know you didn't ask, you didn't need to. I ridicule shitty posts for free

Thank you for your service

Dial back the snark.