Guards at Trump prison camp for children ordered to stop them from hugging - Polidicks

What's the actual fuck? what year is it is it 1943 again?

I know I definitely feel powerless to do anything about this on a grand scale, if only because I have no clue what to even do other than vote.

*In elections and the justice system. Cathartic as it would be, it's not something to stand for.

These children fully deserve this as they commited the most egregious offense possible for this administration. They were born Brown.

Seeing this makes that blurb from a few weeks ago where Trump was considering abolishing child labor laws quite frightening. Almost like it's intentionally trying to strip them of emotion before deploying them to the Clean Coal mines. If a non Republican was in office and ok'ed this they would have been impeached and executed in prison. If an angry mob didn't get them first. Not to advocate killing or mob justice at anyone though.

I can't imagine the outrage if coal miners found out their jobs were taken by immigrant children.

I cannot get over how fucking inSANE that fucking mural is. I've heard apparently there are other presidential murals there but.. Somehow that doesn't really make me feel any better about this polished up "Big Brother" looking shit, like a millennial remix of Mussolini's face https://pastdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Mussolini-Propaganda-Poster-resize-.jpg

To call these shelters concentration camps & prison is absolutely ridiculous. You're telling me this is a concentration camp? I don't remember learning about the free healthcare and video games in the Nazi concentration camps. The children can not even be restrained to be there. The whole situation with seperating children and parents is another argument. The title of this thread and comparisons to the horrendous conditions of concentration camps is vile. You guys are acting like the children are locked in, restrained and forced to work until they die of exhaustion or executed by the Trump SS officers. They are in a horrible situation and not the ideal living condition but calling it a concentration camp is ridiculous. This is a lot better than being deported and not having a roof to sleep under.

I think being separated from their parents is worse

How's Trump's tiny orange cock taste?

Great argument. Very nice. Witty rebuttal took you a lot to think of that one I feel like a majority of the people didn’t really read the article, the first half reads like an entire hit piece

Here's the thing: how would you feel if you were forced apart from your family and ended up assuming they were dead? A shitty situation like this is something you shouldn't be having in the first place lmao, not if the persons behind it had a single iota of human compassion, instead of going "but da law"

Really they're internment camps but that's scarcely any better

Are they unable to go back to their home country with their parents? I'm actually asking because if they were also born in the same country what is the problem?

He got a new job, and submitted his resignation Tuesday. Davidson said he does not want to see shelters shut down, but feels like a “conscientious objector.” “I can no longer in good conscience work with Southwest Key programs,” he wrote. “I am feeling uneasy about the morality of some of the practices.” here's a quote directly from the end of the article: if some shit is morally and ethically wrong, why would people with a working conscience agree to continue perpetuating it in the first place?

Do you not understand the difference between incarceration and shelter?

Physically remove trump I hate to have to say this in every thread about this, but Treatment like this in ICE facilities is nothing new. At all. This treatment of children was happening during the Obama administration too. Trump going up like the wicked witch won't solve this particular issue.

YES.

Thanks to Furher Trump's new policies, no

an anecdote from one person who used to work there isn't exactly your smoking gun for evidence of some human rights abuse facility going on here. the article talks about one of the plenty of other facilities out there that happens to be under-staffed (although they say they still maintain the minimum staff to children ratio or whatever) the kids are able to talk to their families it's not like their completely separated and the article mentions that the time a kid tried to kill himself was when his supposed father didn't even want him and after a DNA test where they found his biological father, turns out he didn't want him either. it's not the government to blame for that shit. the kids are in a new stressful environment but it's not like there isn't any actions being taken by the people who work there to try and minimize it.

From your own quotation it sounds like they're taking actions to maximize it. Why did they need to tell the kid that? Why are they not allowed to hug or comfort each other? Why are they being deported without their parents? The easy answer is that there needs to be suffering because the point is to send the message 'you will suffer if you come here and try to seek asylum'. Why are the facilities understaffed to begin with? Trump knew he was going to announce this, right? Even if he didn't, we're about to see a dramatic swing in the number of people manning these facilities to prevent further tragedies, right? No? Hmm. I wonder why that might be.

my understanding was they were trying to get in contact with the child's father/biological father to reunite the two and turns out neither of them wanted anything to do with the kid. what steps should they have done instead barring "they should just be allowed to stay in the country fuck all borders!"

Deporting them immediately. Like Obama did. Without ripping children away from their mothers to purposefully cause harm to send a message.

There are more than one facility. Separation at the border Inside an old warehouse in south Texas, hundreds of children wait away from their parents in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside. Scattered about are bottles of water, bags of chips and large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets. Brane said she also saw officials at the facility scold a group of five-year-olds for playing around in their cage, telling them to settle down. There are no toys or books. Doesn't sound like the facility in your article.

From what I read is that the policy is to eventually reunite them, so yes, they can leave. Although I am unsure as to why they can't leave at the same time. Possibly because of the worse conditions back at home?

Shelter is where someone should feel safe, which I would argue this kids do not feel safe in.

What point? It's literally not a shelter. It's a holding facility. It states it right in the article.

Do you not read your own posts Or did you not write them?

What are you going on about? I responded to this post saying that "Doesn't sound like the facility in your article." The facility in this thread is a shelter. The facility in this post is a holding facility To make the argument that the "shelter" (in fact a holding facility) is not as livable as the facility in this article is a fallacy because they are not the same kind of facility meant for living in. What do you not understand?

We may have taken away their parents, their freedom, and their basic human dignity, but they have a roof over their heads an a cage full of 19 new friends. Now those little ingrates have the gall to be trying to commit suicide? Where's our thanks?!