• "No judges or court cases!" Trump calls to revoke 6th amendment for immigrants
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He's now even producing new scandals on a Sunday. Things are getting exponentially more extreme - I already dread what's going to happen in the span of two weeks.
At what point is enough going to be enough? He's repeatedly pushed the boundaries and seen that there isn't actually anything to stop him. Now he's openly flirting with the idea of stripping people of their rights? Just toying with this idea should be a very big line crossed.
Toying with the idea, itself, is a very big line being crossed. It is, in and of itself, a violation of the Oath of Office he swore.
And yet he'll get away with that violation without even so much as a slap on the wrist, yet again.
This one is such a large line that 'getting away with it' should mean the immediate plunge of America into open rebellion and riots, just as if he had gone on national TV and declared that he is absorbing the Legislative branch into the Executive and ordering the Judiciary to disband itself. It's that big of a wrench that he's considering throwing into the gears.
Whatever happened to follow the law? Fascist.
Donald "Law and Order" Trump only cares about bringing order when it comes to crimes committed by black people, Mexicans, or Muslims.
"The law only matters when I say it matters, faggot" Basically, we have the equivalent of a Counter-Strike playing, spoiled 12 year old as President.
I haven't bothered but that's because my representative as well as senators are already heavily against Trump. It's one of the best things about living in the Portland Metro in Oregon. Our senators are pretty in touch with the populace and therepresentative for this district is extremely in touch with the people. I subscribe to my representative's news letter and frequently get updates like this one: https://i.imgur.com/cUA6m21.png
The funny thing is that people insisted I was exaggerating when I called Trump a fascist during the 2016 election campaigns.
In fairness, even then he wasn't showing real signs of fascism by what was being reported. I don't mean to say that he didn't have horrible policies and I don't mean to diminish how crude, rude, and generally vicious and mean-spirited he was by telling his followers things like 'if you punch someone who's trying to disrupt this speech, I will pay your legal fees' and so forth. But he wasn't calling for the dismantlement of the Constitution or stating that he wanted children in cages to dissuade Aslyum-seekers. All that was going on in private, hiding his true colors. We did see possible streaks of it, such as the infamous beside 'light Hitler reading', but there wasn't any hard evidence of it. The mere suggestion that we should selectively enforce a part of the Constitution without an Amendment being added to it or a SCOTUS ruling backing it is a large step directly into fascism, however, and now that it's come to light that he wants to indefinitely detain anyone he feels is illegal (regardless of how 'illegal' they truly are) and his maintenance of websites which publish specifically the crimes of 'brown people' (effectively) then yeah, I don't think anyone can really credibly argue that Trump is not a closet fascist who just won't own up to it..
Yeah I'm kinda wondering if I'm allowed to call him a fascist yet. Two years is more than enough time to 'just wait and see' and he has pretty consistently failed to get any better while also confirming fear after fear with every passing day
*cough* https://twitter.com/trevortimm/status/1010941301615816705
We can hope this is one of the things Trump won't stand by, as he has stated infamously that he 'doesn't stand by anything' and favors actions over words. However, I wouldn't hold your breath so long as he's taking advice directly from Stephen Miller.
I have no idea why the immigration court is even under the administration instead of the Judicial system to begin with, its patently unconstitutional but the SCOTUS hasn't touched it
It'll work its way up to that with these lawsuits that are being filed.
Better than most options. Even if your senator is shit, continue to perter your congressmen and someone will pick up. It's better and easier than to get up and start trashing shit.
Every day trump is in office is the least greatest the united states have ever been apparently make america great again implies the course of action everyone will have to take after he is removed from office.
Copying over what I put in the other thread: He's gotta take out three amendments for this to be feasible. Pyler v Doe "The Fourteenth Amendment provides that "[n]o State shall. . . deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." (Emphasis added.) Appellants argue at the outset that undocumented aliens, because of their immigration status, are not "persons within the jurisdiction" of the State of Texas, and that they therefore have no right to the equal protection of Texas law. We reject this argument. Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is surely a "person" in any ordinary sense of that term. Aliens, even aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful, have long been recognized as "persons" guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. " "Indeed, we have clearly held that the Fifth Amendment protects aliens whose presence in this country is unlawful from invidious discrimination by the Federal Government."
Because when people are using the word every election, it loses all meaning. I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen Obama called fascist throughout his term. Arguably Trump hadn't even proven himself fascist yet, so it's less "cry wolf" and more "broken clock", since if the word is applied to every candidate, it'll eventually be correct.
Just because someone calls Obama a fascist, and he is clearly not a fascist, does not mean that someone calling Trump a fascist also make Trump clearly not a fascist. This is basic comprehension.
Not proven himself, no. Threatening to prove himself, absolutely.
No, but also basic comprehension, if the word is used liberally to describe various candidates in every election, people are going to stop taking the word at face value. Now Trump is actually starting to look like a real fascist, and a lot of people aren't noticing because they're used to that word already. It's got as much meaning in this country as calling people Socialist does; very little outside its use as a political buzzword.
I felt bad winds blowing, and when I tried to tell people that it wasn't just going to be Bush V2: Now With More Memes! they laughed me off as an "SJW".
President Pence thinks Stephen Miller and John Bolton advising the President is fine.
I'm not optimistic enough to think that would happen. Plus, to add onto your point earlier on, Pence - for all we know - could have close enough to the same agenda as Trump, plus the political intelligence and clout to act it out unlike Trump. So, yeah, I wouldn't count "President Pence" to be an upgrade.
So because far right idealogues who had no ground to stand on called Obama a fascist, people who actually bring forth reasonable arguments for why Trump may be a fascist are going to be ignored because Obama wasn't actually the Hitler that was foretold? That seems nonsensical. Are you saying many Americans are incapable of looking at two wildly different situations without arriving at the same conclusion ?
I was using the Obama example as to how the word is misused. When people are applying the word every election, yes it starts to lose meaning. I don't believe we had enough evidence to truthfully call Trump a fascist during the election, and now that he actually does warrant that label, calling him that now has no real effect because people were already using it as a buzzword.
Man who has consistently shown no respect for constitution or rule of law proposes violating constitution and rule of law. I can't even remember the last time he went a full 24 hours without that happening.
He was called that during the election because this result was obvious. It's not like he slowly transitioned into being a fascist, he ran a platform on it and won the election on it.
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