Migrant children and families now face indefinite detention by US - Polidicks

More like the lesson is "people should be put into concentration camps because a totally different set of people tried to restrict my right to have a bump stock". Get over yourself my dude. I personally want higher pay for lower income families, but you don't see my ass advocating for fucking prison camps to hold people indefinitely against their will.

uh dude we know know that they were under investigation at the same time, it's just that Clinton's investigation was made public and trump's was not. Unless you mean to say all immigrants are drunken and idiotic I don't know what point you're making here.

local man tries, fails, to hide profound embarrassment on online forum

He says while typing out a goddamn essay defending his bullshit. Makes total sense. Yeah, you're totally sounding reasonable and not still like a spiteful asshole.

What side? You are an individual arguing against individuals; Why do you resort to magnifying yourself by identifying with a side and generalizing the people you're talking with by identifying them with one as well? Address points raised by specific individuals against you, a specific individual. Don't hide behind political categories and groups by conflating a part with a whole. This sort of mindset of group mentality even when you aren't speaking with representatives of groups is the kind of thing that results in the toxic political culture that you see today.

this bit here isn't even close to being the worst, but it IS pretty indicative of how you're warping reality to fit your views. the vast majority of people here were on his side during the case, what the hell are you talking about? example 1, example 2 yeah, people gave him shit for his alt-right views when he dove head first into becoming a poster boy for them. siding with him on the case and criticizing his politics aren't mutually exclusive positions, dude. it seems to me FP views the world in a way less black and white way than you do

You have a wicked and black mentality, and no concept of the suffering of fellow human beings. I hope one day you awaken to the sight of the person you present to others, and realize the abject monstrosity of what you have said in this thread. Clearly you do not live on Earth.

i can't wait for republicans to take credit for any amount of progress we make in the next few years after democrats take control (If only the partisan DEMS would have COMPROMISED this would have happened years ago) and blame the democrats for halting progress, all with a completely straight face. Or we lose and none of that happens, but I'd like to avoid that.

He can't even do racism correctly. https://puu.sh/ARLNy.png

It's always fun seeing certain idiots embarrass themselves in PD, then run to the discord and complain there how stupid the other posters are.

talk about a Persecution complex. Jesus Fucking Christ.

How long until he pretends it was a joke https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1717/afc3669b-1062-4e89-ad96-93feac8fa935/db0.jpg

Sorry, but that is a funny meme, 'racism correctly' or not.

It really isn't. Even in an ironic sense.

No it's not funny. It's just racist.

I wish David Bowie were still alive so he could take you back to Meme School. Also, that’s still racist, babe.

Didn't Tolkien regret referring to orcs as a inherently evil horde?

Whoosh. Local posters fail reading comprehension; attempt to make epic zinger. I thought for sure the bigass “FOR EXAMPLE” and “SOUND FAMILIAR?” would have been a dead giveaway. But next time I’ll try to use big fucking neon signs so the rest of you can keep up. SGT Doom I thought you knew better than this. I’m disappointed. Thank god, at least someone here actually gets what I was going for. As for vagueness part, sorry that I can’t remember exactly who said what amongst the massive plethora of shit, but I distinctly remember someone unironically arguing that “being able to carry a gun isn’t necessary or protected by the second amendment.” I believe it was either Zero Point or Sirius who said that. I was using a paraphrase of that to say “you don’t need to bail to have due process” even though in the context of immigration courts, it would be retarded not to, because of how backlogged everything is. Anyways thanks for at least not blatantly mischaracterizing what I say unlike the rest of these worthless little shits. Case and point, biggest straw man I’ve ever seen right here. You know damn well that’s not what I was saying. I never said or even implied that any number of illegal immigrants were drunken or idiotic. My point was when it does eventually happen in that rare circumstance, there is a decent chance that sanctuary cities will just release them from detainment, back onto the streets, when anywhere else would hold them accountable and contact the proper authorities. It’s the same way with police misconduct. The problem isn’t “ALL COPS BAD REEEE”, but that nothing is ever done in many of the cases where it does happen. So what, you don’t think that women should feel offended when a the Republican party and it’s supporters tell them “abortions shouldn’t be an individual right”? How about when homosexuals are told that “gay marriage shouldn’t be an individual right” because “that’s immoral!”? But hey I guess that shouldn’t have any bearing on their political stances. You know what they have in common with gun rights? None of them are technically “inalienable human rights”, but all three of them are individual rights which are constantly subject to attack by dumb politicians on the basis of “morality”. If you persecute people based upon any one of these positions, they’re interests are going to align more with the political party who ISN’T actively trying to sabotage their lifestyles and choices. I don’t see what’s so fucking hard for you people to understand that. Since Republicans and their supporters don’t go out of their own way to disrespect my lifestyle, of course I’m going to relate to them more despite having many socially liberal views; because you assholes alienate anyone and everyone who doesn’t tow the party line! Since minorities and several other groups are often persecuted by the Republican Party, of course it makes sense for them to align more with the DNC who isn’t trying to sabotage their lives. But I know most of you are just going to double down and continue to insist that the government policies you support have NEVER wronged anyone. And even if they did, it wouldn’t matter to you since sacrificing some insignificant right about “people being able to own pieces of steel” would be worth it for the public good. After all, you know what’s best for the country, You’re #1! Many of the people responding to this thread have said things in the past which I have called them out on. Because I didn’t think callout posts were allowed, it’s more convenient just to make this a general address to the people who know and remember what they’ve said and done. But since you’re asking, this is mainly addressed to the worst offenders being Swinefest, Zero Point, Sirius, Lambeth, Codemaster, and Umbra. Again it’s hard to remember exactly who said which thing, but I can clearly remember the contents of what was said. Also there’s some idiot named rinrin who keeps following me around threads to spam ratings, but they’re too much of a little bitch to actually say anything or elaborate their position. Says the guy who leaves two or three separate flame posts every time I point out how offended they are. Mostly I’m still here because the majority of you are too self righteous to realize that maybe somewhere along the line you went too far, and that people are siding with the fascists because they can’t stand you or the politicians you’re supporting? Like some of the shit I hear from people are things I never would have heard 20 years ago. That and posting in this topic has the added bonus of watching a little piggy dance whenever you dangle a carrot on a stick in front of them (lol so predictable). However as things are now I believe it’s impossible to move forward. My friends were right in telling me this place was beyond help.

While it is entirely understandable that you would put the party that advances your personal interests (or at least preserves the ones you care about and only touches the ones you care less about) this is still a conscious choice of lifestyle over lives. In your example, for instance, it would be possible for such people to support or cooperate with such a group because actual lives of others were on the line in a more pressing matter - political support in a representative democracy will forever be pragmatic, meaning you do not choose those you necessarily agree with, rather than those that you believe will result in an outcome you find more bearable than the other guys. That such a situation clearly doesn't exist right now because the same party against the interests of such people are also against anything else they might hold as important and necessary makes such a comparison moot, even though such a scenario is theoretically possible. As long as you have no illusions about the reality of things as they are, and that this is what you choose to do - do as you wish. Just understand that this is what bothers some people in this thread and elsewhere.

@AlbertWesker I'm not afraid to disagree with the popular opinion. I've called out BDA and others for being too vitriolic. I've always agreed that you should empathize with opposing opinions no matter how fucked you think they are, because you can't solve a problem you don't understand. I don't expect this to be enough for you to trust that I'm not just jumping on a bandwagon. You think what you want, trust me or don't trust me, I'll speak my mind like I always have. The long and short of it is, you talk about respect when you act like a douche. You talk avoiding partisanship then generalize, you talk empathy then antagonize. You talk about understanding then define your politics by spite. You're entitled, hateful, sheltered, and the biggest hypocrite I've seen in ages, and I'm being completely unironic when I say, out of personal experience, that Tudd himself is better at self-reflecting than you are

To think i used to think wesker was just a moderste right leaning memdber. But then realize he would rather kidnap a thousand children before he would let his 2nd admendment die.

No bullshit, AlbertWesker made a lot of good pro-gun arguments in several threads. I'd put him up there with catbarf and grenadiac on that topic. I don't know why he is so vitriolic in this thread.

Because he has no real counterargument but refuses to admit defeat, so has declared everyone else the loser instead.

Imagine comparing migrants to fucking Orcs. Jee-zus Christ.

I think he just needs to take a break from the internet

Hold up hold up hold up. I;m not gonna read the last 5 pages of this train wreck but I've seen enough to say I'm disappointed in you @AlbertWesker BUT How did we even get this idea that unfucking our immigration situation and maintaining 2A are mutually exclusive ideas?

I mean I think we can all agree that guns and immigrants are entirely separate issues on their own. I think the problem is the context that, at least in the us, the one relevant party that isnt insane when it comes to immigration policies also happens to not be the most hospitable to gun rights, the democratic party. And before we add another 5 pages to this thread, I do agree that this is nonsense, that we should be voting in moderates on all sides so we don't end up to these scenarios, etc etc. But practically and realistically speaking, at least in the short term, when people go to vote for their representatives, many will wind up having to make a choice between the two.

I feel like if you vote in moderates stuff like ICE may continue. Bush set up the Department of Homeland Security and ICE, along with passing the PATRIOT act. Obama continued Bush's polieces and in some cases made them worse. What if a moderate is voted in after Trump and abuses continue anyway?