Official Brexit campaign found guilty of four charges of breaking electoral law - Polidicks

No fuck that, that is not the point at all. If there was any illegal tampering involved for any of the sides, the results of any election should be put into question. That is what democracy is built upon: that the public is well and truthfully informed, and that both (or more) sides all play by the same rules. Speculations about whether there was any fraud is one thing anyone can do, but when they have been found guilty in a court of law for these crimes, it's a completely different story. These charges, without reasonable doubt, would give the leave campaign the edge in the election. The magnitude of these But what the fuck does it even matter? It's not as electoral law even mean anything anymore in this post-democratic world.

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ok was really not keen on the whole *boilrig bashing dogpile* earlier in the thread but way to prove them all right by posting perhaps the worst thing possible lmao you''re essentially implying that the narrow margin this vote won by transcends all possible context and even criminal wrongdoing? do you honestly expect people to take this seriously or are you just posting to get a reaction at this stage?

Maybe, maybe not, but they would actually anull a referendum As Per the Commission of Venice on Referendums of which the UK is a signatory, on page 19: 3.3. Funding 24. National rules on both public and private funding of political parties and election campaigns must be applicable to referendum campaigns (point II.3.4.a). As in the case of elections, funding must be transparent, particularly when it comes to campaign accounts. In the event of a failure to abide by the statutory requirements, for instance if the cap on spending is exceeded by a significant margin, the vote must be annulled http://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/default.aspx?pdffile=cdl-ad(2007)008-e But as we've established with you several times, Boilrig, democracy and law only matters if it delivers the result you want.

Hey you were the one screaming for the last 2 fucking years that going against the vote would be undemocratic but now you’re saying BREAKING ELECTION LAWS IS “pro democratic”? Youre a skillfull troll or literally incapable of basic logic

does every thread relating to brexit need someone to ping Boilrig to summon him like some ancient sumerian deity

Best invoke him lest he show up uninvited like an evil fairy stepmother.

Ladies and gentlemen, the dictionary definition of the phrase 'bold-faced lie'.

Yes, but remember, it has to actually be more than what we have seen here. It isn't my fault that I haven't been convinced, as I've said before and I'll say again, more than GDP loss over 8 years, job losses, even the slight campaign rule breaking that we see here. And I'm guessing that 600k doesn't breach the 'significant margin'. I didn't say it was ok to break election law, it was that this break seems within the normal limits of past electoral issues.

You are the most intellectually dishonest person I've ever met. In my entire fucking life. You can wear that crown as proudly as you want. It will never be anything but a burden.

I don't see that applying to me, sorry mate. I think what people should take away from this article and thread is that it affects nothing, as much as people want it to, if you had a massive amount of rule breaking that came out shortly after the vote, maybe even going over budget by tens of millions, then yeah, theres an issue. If you remember that the Conservatives committed election fraud for the 2017 election but that result wasn't overturned. With politics and these campaign laws, its about how large the issue is when they do eventually come out, to which this, is basically nothing in regards of being large enough to touch the Brexit vote. To the people talking about the electorate being 'well and truthfully informed', that is a pipe dream people on here should know that by now, politicians either flat out lie or never tell the whole truth and if you look at the world now, you know you can't do shit about it, parties get into government and then do the exact opposite of what was promised. The problem with Brexit is that stats actually held up both sides of the argument, even for a short while before new stats became available or were checked, all dependant on how you calculated and put figures together. On one side you had a bus that talked about giving money to the NHS and on the other side you had a prediction that the economy would collapse on just the vote to leave. The entire thing was a joke, but I can't in my right mind call to overturn a referendum on that alone, sorry lads, broken promises and muh economy isn't enough.

Who put a children's fairytale in the non-fiction section? Dearie me, I was looking for "Brexit: Ooh, Fuck."

"And I'm guessing that 600k doesn't breach the 'significant margin'." The amount of people doesn't matter, laws were still literally broken to garner that upper hand through dishonest means. Don't come here and talk about significance. I can assure you that out of ~33.5 M voters, a 600k difference would be insignificant if you actually process the statistics of it. Especially in the light of this evident breach of electoral law. Please make real replies instead of blanket responses. You aren't answering anything by doing that. Furthermore, in almost every thread I've seen you debate in, pretty much everyone gangs up against you. Why do you think that is? Why wouldn't there be more people here sharing your view and agreeing with your points? Is it because we are all wrong and just sitting here in an echo chamber? The phrase "everyone else is wrong except me". How can you be sure that you are right when so many others disagree with you, users, media, and experts alike? You also claim to be "open minded" about Brexit. Where are your doubts? Can you present for us here two or three different things that you feel unsure about? Things that would benefit Britain as a whole if they were to stay in the EU.

"people lie, we should be complacent about it" You are literally the worst You are literally the type of voter who has enabled politicians to do the very thing you complain about. You're an eternal joke dude.

Straight into the ad hominem, good job dude, and people wonder why I still side with Brexit because the arguments turns into 4 four line personal monologue of feels.

No. We've had rational arguments before where the arguments are laid out for you to interpret and deal with. We can look back at post history quite happily. The posters of this website have given numerous detailed and thorough explanations of why your view of democracy is dishonest and disregards the majority of the concepts that democracy is founded upon. You've shown absolute disregard for any evidence that is given to you to show why this will be negative for the UK, why the EU has all the leverage, why democracy allows for a change in opinion when the people will it, and never once have you demonstrated the faintest thing resembling an "Open mind". You disregard evidence, arguments, and people. You always focus on the most weak ad hominems posted in a thread to breeze right past large quality posts so you can cry "You're being mean to me!". No one cares. The thing I don't get more than anything is if you would just do yourself the favour of re-reading the discourse you've had with about 20 different posters over 2 years in around 300 posts or so, you'd see this for yourself. No one would have to ask you to become self aware, no one would feel frustrated and lost for words after 2 years of arguing the same stupid points that only ever get more and more unfounded or far from reality. Are you doing that in response to being insulted? Do you feel that clinging to an idea that is illogical, in a rational demonstrable way is favourable to change? To admitting one is wrong? I would always prefer to admit I'm wrong when given evidence that proves me so, than to cling to a bad idea. There's no loss there, only a gain. So when the only thing you're doing is what is either very dedicated trolling, or extremely intellectually dishonest discourse and you've done so for over 2 years, I kind of wonder why you believe that kind words are the solution to your poor ideas.

Why do you even care, you're from New Zealand.

Economic gain. NZ was one of the "losers" when the UK joined the EU in that their agricultural exports to the UK became subject to the usual tarriffs on goods outside the EU.

Pls answer my questions, Boilrig-sama

You can quit the bullshit. https://puu.sh/AtJl4.png https://puu.sh/AtJkK.png https://puu.sh/ADK7b.png You never gave a fuck about Brexit. And are only doing this to piss people off.

I hope you don't think this is some sort of revelation, or you are 'outing' me. Personally, with Brexit, I couldn't care, however that doesn't mean I'm automatically against it or join discussions about it.

Notice me senpai~

and into the sunset he goes

"I was only pretending to be stupid" God damn dude You might as well go ahead and take up flat earthism while you're at it, you're just as logically inclined to connect those dots at this point guy

I haven’t seen someone this frustrating and pointless to argue with since Tudd.

"I'm not stupid I'm just trolling look at all the crying libcucks ay lmao" Do what you want fam but if you play yourself out like a moron don't be surprised when we treat you like one.

Admits he doesn't care but keeps on shitposting in polidicks because he consistently riles people up. Gee, that doesn't remind me of anyone at all.

It's not even that. It's just 'shitposting isn't against the rules'.

Great 1800 post, congrats, also nice of that you "couldn't care" yet somehow still spout nearly the same nonsense thread in and thread out while boasting that you ""haven't been convinced"", that is not achievement my dude, just an embarrassment. I know we as the loose collective of Brexit thread posters don't really add anything by keeping on involving you, but most threads you keep spouting your some old empty rhetoric of the oh great Britain that will somehow rise again. While pretending to care about democratic <whatever> as long as it swings your way while still not really going into how its fine by your side to have used such blatant tactics reminiscent of fraud, deception and covert racism while the Remainers didn't (not on the scale of Leave, anyway). You could have kept your little fantasies all to yourself or maybe just hinted as being optimistic that Britain might come out on top, even with all odds and indicators stacked against them, but your constant spewing off the same old garbage with the highest of undeserved confidence will make us continue to riff on you, so stop pretending to not care about Brexit and get some new arguments or, dare I say it, alter your viewpoint. There is no shame in admitting you were wrong, but lots of shame in keeping insisting you are not wrong, while shown otherwise.

Official report is out, and it's been referred to the police https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992