Mitch McConnell was chased out of an restaurant by protesters. - Polidicks

Note that this rule only explicitly applies to fascists and fascism - because fascists and fascism force its requirement. We would not allow ISIS to hold public demonstrations to recruit for terrorist causes. We should not allow actual nazis to spread nazi propaganda. Those who wonder 'but what's the harm' need only look back at World War II to find the harm. Those who would defend the rights of Nazis to their speech are those who will find their black boots placed firmly on their necks - it can end literally no other way. There is no positive endgame for a Nazi party in power or with broad support. Your rights will be diminished. Those you love will be killed. The government you enjoy will no longer empower you but instead itself. You will be robbed of all democratic representation and be told what your positions are. We are America and we should be tolerant of every culture, language, party, and/or race that does not harm our citizenry at large or our Republic. There is no Nazi party (or indeed any ultranationalist or supremacist party) which will not commit genocide to further its goals - therefore they are fundamentally incompatible with our republic.

And yet this thread is full of people supporting an act that plays right into the fascist narrative, threatening their leaders, something that has been repeatedly used through history by fascists to consolidate power. All it will take is one, good, credible threat on a Republican leader and that will be all the pretense they need to expand police powers. How does threatening McConnell in public lead to getting his party out of power or lessening their support, exactly? The idea that there is nobody in America who could possibly be swayed one way or the other is utter nonsense, and would be rightfully called out as such if people weren't so desperate to justify it in this context. There are absolutely voters out there who could be driven stay home rather than vote D, or vote R rather than stay home. You can call them short-sighted, ignorant of history, effectively supporting fascists, or whatever else you want, but regardless of how you feel about their logic they exist and you alienate them at your own peril.

The reality is that as a direct result of McConnell's actions, hundreds if not thousands of people will die. Hundreds of people will have their lives ruined by this one man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0XzdWWeDk8 McConnell isn't being attacked, he isn't being hurt. He's being protested by the citizens that he represents, which is a fundamental part of modern democracy, American or not.

As it turns out when you decide to benefit yourself/your crony friends at the detriment of millions of people, you get some consequences, sometimes.

You need to do some reading because Obama wasted three years of his administration trying to appease fuckfaces that had no interest in progress or compromise.

You're treating this like somehow this time is different from every other attempt at Fascism.

In many ways historically it is different

How are you getting that from my post? I think I said exactly the opposite.

I mean, we literally are. There's protests, media coverage, people begging one another to please give a shit about what's going on. And guess what? Conservatives still make themselves out to be the victims in those cases. Everything you say or do that isn't in lockstep with their ideals and values is an attack on them, no matter how many lies they have to tell, no matter how much mental gymnastics they have to jump through, no matter how idiotic the logic is, they will present themselves as abused and hated and wronged, even if you're just calling them out for doing or supporting something terrible. We're at a point where Republicans being held legally accountable for their actions is an attack by partisan judges and the liberal deep state, where protest violates Trump's first amendment rights, where accurate and vetted media coverage is libel or a fabricated assault, and where trying to convince people of what's going on is shilling and indoctrination. This isn't as simple of a situation as you seem to be making it out to be. They don't even need a credible threat to do what you're proposing they'd do. They could lie and say something happened, then call anyone who tries to prove them wrong complicit and Trump supporters would eat that shit up like they have everything else. Law enforcement can't find anything? Deep state liberals! Media investigation turns up nothing? FAKE NEWS! A lifelong republican leaks information showing the whole thing is a farce? RINO! Liberal! Leaker! Traitor! Shill! People who aren't convinced to vote against this regime aren't convinced for a reason. The waters are muddied by design, and conservatives will make literally anything you do sound like clubbing baby seals to keep it that way. So while I don't advocate threatening people much less attacking them, where exactly is the incentive to play nice?

The deep state is their excuse for the consolidation of power. You don't have to claim they wouldn't need an excuse when they've already made one up.

Then you'd realize that by trying to moderate your voice you give fascists an out to try and debate on "equal footing". Appealing to moderates is how the nazi party actually gained full control(alongside using militias to supress and attack political opponets and protestors).

Well what I imagined @catbarf was getting at was an excuse to crack down on opposition altogether. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Even if it was, that doesn't have any bearing. The Reichstag Fire was an excuse to crack down on opposition. It was put into play by the same party that used it as an excuse to crack down on opposition. That's the power of 'fake news'.

Yes, I agree, and that is what I was attempting to b say with my post. Sorry if I was unclear.

run, you fucking roach.

The moderate approach could've worked 10 to 20 years ago. It doesn't work anymore, hell moderates gave their opinions twisted and destroyed by those looking to mold a narrative.

You are not contradicting anything I've said. The party lines are sufficiently evenly split that it's moderates who will decide the elections this November. Right now liberals have a massive moral high ground that, as the polls are showing, is swaying moderates to their side, but if there's one thing that's clear it's that Republicans are committed to muddying the waters. If nobody can articulate why threatening McConnell is a useful, productive thing, then at best it accomplishes nothing and at worst it gives Republicans easy talking points. You said it yourself, appealing to moderates is how the Nazi party gained full control, so why shouldn't we care about how Democrats come across to moderates, exactly?

I think people are actively looking to go to civil war, I really can't explain why else people would double down on a method of communicating they can consciously acknowledge isn't conducive to the goals they want.

"Doesn't this make you the real bad guy?" is the weakest punk-ass excuse for laying by and letting evil men get away with shit.

This tone policing shit infuriates me constantly. Our administration dehumanizes immigrants through extremely hamfisted police tactics and goes as far as to put them in cages, and yet when the public lashes back against them, now comes the chastising for not being "civil?" Civility went out the fucking window when our president openly embraced authoritarianism. I don't agree with threatening them, but the time is long overdue for direct action. Protest and shame these people wherever they go. In a just world, men like Mitch McConnell would be in a prison cell, but for now it's the least they deserve.

In addition they are arresting reporters for reporting on them.

I can't think of a congressman more deserving of this sort of treatment than McConnell. Unless we're talking about Devin Nunes, anyway.

Yeah! Yelling at people at a restaurant is just as bad as child concentration camps! Are you mental? Holy shit the mental gymnastics

Clamoring for civility when one side is as dangerously deranged as the gop kinda sounds like virtue signaling or something

Honestly I've just begun granting blanket benefits of the doubt to a lot of posters by assuming they are just merely trolling for reactions. I don't honestly believe so many peoples moral compasses can be so fucked that they see yelling at a guy in a resturant as being worse than a fraction of what the Republican party has done in the last 2 years, or 8 years, or 20 years.

Protest in public places? You're inconveniencing random people and will be villified Protest directly to those responsible? You're a violent leftist who justifies fascist narratives So, where do you go? Are you only supposed to protest them during work hours? If you protest in front of the senate you'll get that first reason again, storming the building is out of the question or you'll get the second, too. This concern trolling bullshit is fucking exhausting. We've seen the reactions to NFL kneeling, which should've fallen perfectly within pedantic conservative standards - but woah, it didn't, who would've possibly seen this coming? There's only one type of protest the American right likes, and it's the one that doesn't happen

Which is truly sad because there is literally nothing more american than dissent.

Public panic is going to be Americas past time.

That's poor grammar on my part. The other Weimar parties tried appealing to moderates but found that even as they tried, moderates were getting pulled in by the promises and loud language being used by nazies, the undecided voters also inherently turned toward the bombastic speeches being given as well. With trust in the media at an all time low, these undecided apathetic moderates have no way of getting information so who do you think they'll turn to? The loud people making big claims that sound good? Or the quiet people saying somewhat more down to earth things? Historically in the US, they'll listen to the louder person. Take for instance the primary between George H. Bush and Ronald Reagan, Reagan sold American on a farce of an economic system but because he was so optimistic and loud, he completely overshadowed Bush who was very much down to Earth in his policies. Appealing to moderates won't get you anywhere because they'd rather have order than chaos, moderates just want to live their life so which is easier. Allowing Trump to continue, and maybe some stuff gets shaken but nothing big like an impeachment trial and such will happen, or going after Trump and getting swamped inside the almost guaranteed violent conclusion of what would be a Trump impeachment. Of the two, which do you think apathetic, moderate, and undecided voters will go for? Don't tell me 'well if you present yourself better' because to be frank, the man as fucking detention camps where children were separated and than lost in the system, he's doing the very opposite with these recent tariffs in helping manufacturing by forcing many US firms to actually close up, and his government as been nothing more than a shit show of revolving doors within his cabinet. The point I originally made is that if you're still looking for a moderate voice, if you're still undecided, if you are still apathetic, after everything that has happened. You're a lost cause. We've hit so many red flags that if you're still not sure if something is wrong your fucking morality meter is broke. Maybe people can be convinced but after the recent shitstorm, if you're no longer convinced than you just don't care and wasted effort is spent trying to convince you instead of focusing on making it as strong as possibly known that these fascist ideas and policies are no welcome in the United GOD DAMN States.

I'm really looking forward to Weimerica