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They've occupied radically different roles in the world economy and structure so yeah, they wouldn't be analgous to one another.
China is by no means a "morally" better country. I fully acknowledge you are aware that China has huge human rights violations, but you should compare that with the US's history in an honest look. You haven't done that so far.
Korean War wasn't our fault, North Korea invaded South Korea with blessings from the USSR and military support from China. The response to that was a US-led United Nations counter-attack, with countries from all corners of the globe contributing to the UN effort in one way or another. The UN (especially US and Europe) agreed to intervention they feared parallels with Hitler, that doing nothing would lead to more Soviet invasions throughout Europe, and eventually full-scale war.
If you want to go deeper than that, DPRK and ROK troops had frequent border skirmishes with tens of thousands of troops involved, and DPRK had communist guerrillas waging war within in the ROK. The US did not even have any military presence at this time, and no US Troops were in Korea until we landed to reinforce the ROK militarily, who had lost 80% of their forces by the time we arrived under the banner of the UN.
I'm not really trying to argue in bad faith, so let's start over. As a person who does not live in either the US or China, which country being in a dominant position would you think would be less of a threat to them, taking into consideration what each country has done in the past to project their influence over others and be in that dominant position?
I wouldn't trust china with a pool noodle, much less foreign policy.
Well things aren't looking good for the China side of things.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/woman-disappears-throwing-ink-photo-chinese-president-002354495.html
I mean, have you been reading to anything i've posted?
Yes I have, but America's faults don't make China any better. They still have an authoritarian government that disappears people for vandalism, tracks everyone, harshly oppresses minorities, and oppresses independent (or "independent") countries within their grasp. The US doesn't have a good track record, but China's is still worse.
Then we have a disagreement on basic reality, when i look at the US's amount of invasions/wars/interventionism and compare to China's i just can't understand how you guys still think the US is the lesser evil, that's my point of view. Also, if i haven't been clear enough, i do not condone any of the bad shit China has done or is doing at the moment, i can't stress enough how i feel that both countries are the lowest of the low in the current climate and would rather have a pseudo-state like the EU in a dominant position.
Because you're ignornat of the shit china does to it's own citizens.
Your ignorance isn't a reason why the US is worse. They aren't.
The US is far from perfect, or even admirable, but it does things in a much different manner than China does. China is a human rights nightmare. The US isn't great, but that's due to a environment of enforced ignorance over the last 20 years.
China's bootlegs have been getting a lot better, and so has their influence.
I don't want China or Russia as sole controllers of anything big
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