Putin and Trump meet, trump claims US "stupidity" as source of Russian distrust.
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This sentence is just beautifully ironic.
Hey asshole just wanted to say thanks for making me look like a lunatic for sharing a broad spectrum political label with you
No, I said that they weren't some kind of New-Age Auschwitz like you were making them out to be, and explained why it might not be a good idea to just release "parents" back with their "children" right off the bat which is what a lot of people have been erroneously advocating for.
Meanwhile here you are drinking in everything any media organization has to say about Trump as long as it's negative and you're telling me to lay off the Koolaid. You can't even stop and think for yourself "Hey, could it be that the 'horror' of these detention facilities is being exaggerated out of proportion?"
You probably didn't even know that some of the pictures they ran with the original coverage on the subject weren't even from this year, or even this presidential term.
Is trump's own twitter fake news?
"IM NOT CRAZY, YOU'RE CRAZY"
We already showed and poked massive holes to why both those claims are shit with sources. But you rather just ignore all of it and say the media is lying. Much easier way than accepting your shithead leader is leading camps to keep kids locked up.
How am I making you look like a lunatic? I don't classify myself as a Libertarian anymore even if I still generally hold libertarian values. And honestly you should be aware that anything you say that isn't in line with mainstream left wing narratives is going to make you look like a lunatic here.
I did respond to you. You ignored it, and the content of that argument to repeat yourself.
The US is a freer country than Russia, or China. You can say "NO IT ISN'T." Until you die, but you'd be wrong. You should learn to admit basic factual truths that you are incorrect about. It'll help you.
The US has tons and tons of problems, and problematic policies across the world, but you're straight up ignorant if you think China and Russia are better. Tianmen Square? The Gulags? Do you know ANYTHING of history or do you just spout off like the ignorant child you seem to be?
That's funny because I provided counterarguments with sources and you just dismissed them readily, then I linked you a mainstream article from a respected publication that literally made shit up and you didn't (or couldn't) say anything about it, and here you are still insisting that I'm the one who's brainwashed and that the President is literally running the next Holocaust.
You are also part of the problem
I don't think it's every crossed your mind that people on this end think the exact same about you. At least I'm engaging you instead of just being some dickhead who's so full of hubris that he just handwaves everything someone else has to say with a blanket statement of how morally corrupt and ignorant and bigoted their ideology is.
Trump and his cronies like this BFG guys are fucking retarded. Characterizing anyone right of center as "full of ignorance, corruption and bankrupt morals" is why it's impossible to have a fucking conversation anymore.
Can you shut up for a minute and read your words back to yourself? Out loud?
No, you never replied to this. Still, it looks like you haven't even bothered reading what i posted here since you are bringing up China and Russia which i haven't metioned at all in this thread.
So now let me ask you, who would you think would gain more legitimacy from the US losing it's own? Russia, China or the EU. Please tell me you are not oblivious to the fact that the US losing power in the west would not mean the rise of Russia or China as you think that i'm implying but would instead give more power to the EU which is my whole point. In which case i'd think you'd agree that the European Union is much better in most aspects than the US.
Also lol at the name calling.
For your sake as much as everyone else's I hope your misguided dream never comes true.
If it does, it will be the single greatest regret you could ever imagine.
I just defended him for criticizing Germany's dependency on Russian oil then he pulls this shit. Unbelievable.
It's people like you that should be deported, not so much the illegal immigrants jumping the border.
Who do you think is going to take the throne if america is booted out exactly? You think Argentina will rise to the top or any other developing South American nation? What about Europe? None of these nations have the industrial and trading capacity that the US/Russia/China provides.
He's from argentina, good luck deporting him
I don't know who started this meme that concentration camp = death camp but anyone who falls for it is an idiot.
https://i.imgur.com/EeKeCrQ.png
It's been a week or two, but recall hearing on the radio about how Trump's figures on Germany's energy dependence was complete bullshit.
I really hope it does, maybe not in my lifetime but Trump is sufficient proof that the US can no longer be trusted as a leader of the world and we deserve much better.
Lets be fair here. Trump was hard on Kim too but when it came to actual talks he tried to be a little nicer.
But the two choices are china and russia ffs. How hard is that to understand.
I stand centrist left in my political views and even I'm aware that broad stroke painting of a bunch of people has no nuance and is a stupid thing to be doing. What do you want him to do, apologize for everything daddy Don did 100 times?
And he's not exactly wrong in that post either, though it could have been worded a bit less harshly. You skipped straight to "questioning of age" and "personal attacks", and didn't respond to the quite valid point he makes about your broad strokes argument. In fact, grouping anybody holding conservative views, or any views for that matter, under the same umbrella, is dumb. Why do you think us liberals get pissed off when edgy idiots go "haha lie-buruls owned by jordan peterson again" or something stupid like that, and refer to us as ungrateful moochers who dont boostrap hard enough?
FYI this was a lie. What's all this about drinking the kool aid? It's 2018 and you are just taking shit Donald Trump says at face value, how embarrassing.
Well considering he did give them everything they wanted and came out with absolutely nothing to show for it I guess those people were right. So much for the "fake news media" huh?
It usually helps to bring examples when you are trying to make an argument but as a counter-factual: Trump's own justice department just identified 12 Russian's within one of Russia's intelligence services and indicted them on criminal charges. Trumps response to this is to not only continue forward with meeting Putin, but castigating his own intelligence services while praising Putin.
I, too, enjoy making up quotes of people I'm arguing with in an attempt to make them look stupid.
How hard is it to understand that, in the west, it's not both China and Russia but the US and the EU? Holy fuck.
Deport him to Detroit.
For the record I did not vote for, and did not ever consider voting for, and never ever will vote for under any circumstances, Trump. If I could push a button and teleport him to Mars I'd push it twice.
Now that's just inhumane
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