• Who do you want as the 46th President of the United States?
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I wasn't trying to shame you - I was simply pointing out that you're wasting energy voting third party. If you don't want Trump, your only recourse is to vote Democrats. I agree that this isn't at all ideal, but it's the way the US system works and good intentions don't override rationality.
Sure its "rationality" when against political realism (or bigger reality) outside of FPTP's (and some other Plural voting systems) definition of voting. Sadly and technically it is for be very worst case, If you want acting as stereotypical toxic partisan member to either both major parties to blame voters instead blaming on very clearly flawed candidates mistakes to getting more voters to that candidate.
Honestly not trying to be a dick, but is it possible to rephrase that? I'm not entirely sure what you mean by it, that's all. There's only one state in the union, Maine I believe, that apportions out electoral college votes proportionally, so you'd need an insane swell of support for a third party to ever get even one state. It sucks, but you may as well not be voting at all if you're to do so. Sure, I can understand that if you hated both parties equally, there's no problem with that, but one imagines that you, like many here, probably don't hate the Democrats as much as the Republicans.
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I know you aren't if everyone in US waking up of demanding electoral reform on changing nation's voting system long time ago, This won't happen in first place. And I'm Autistic dude, But it's doesn't means ignore what I said. This shouldn't be accept it anymore as current reality (in non-FPTP political realistic sense) is keep evolving around all us. It's depends of how Democrats keep letting (fiscal) corruption infected their party while supposedly promoting party's main ideology.
Dude, I know that. You've told me before and that's why I said I was honestly not trying to be a dick. I was trying to make sure it was clear that I had no intention of upsetting you and that I just thought it might be useful for you to write what you meant a different way so that I could reply more fruitfully. Please don't take everything I do in such a hostile way - I barely even rate anybody dumb on the forums because I don't want to upset people.
I sadly understand an I give an overly long reason to hate tactical voting. It started back in during 2016 election right after DNC convention over and Bernie become Hillary surrogate for rest of election, I was madly disappointing he loss and saw videos with Jill Stein, study about her policies and become quickly Stein supporter within day or two. Weeks after that, I start cross bad apples in Facebook and several "Left-wing" websites with most rottenist and toxic tactical voters I seen. Like everytime I said rather voting to Jill Stein instead Hillary Clinton (or occasionally Donald Trump) over ideological reasons was sounds very more comes out as verbal/psychological abuses and death threats than normal reasonings to why voting Hillary than Jill. And because them, I had to purposely ignore worst "reasons" (or excuses) to convincing for me to vote Hillary throughout rest of election until Election day with Donald Trump won by Electoral Votes not popular votes.
I agree that Bernie was by far and away the better candidate, and I'd also agree that Jill Stein is one the whole better than Hillary, although Stein's views on vaccines and WiFi were unscientific and stupid, so she was not ideal either. Sorry that you got hate on other forums, but FP is generally more mature, so you shouldn't worry as much about people being dicks. Look, overall, I do think voting based on one's conscience is a good thing, but sometimes we have to bite the bullet and vote for somebody we don't truly believe in because the alternative is worse.
As I mentioned study her presidential campaign back in 2016 election. I very clearly don't remember anything related the stereotypical anti-science left-wing policies in issues section of her presidential campaign website that repeating claimed by these toxic tactical voters, Hillary supporters or seemly Pro-Hillary mainstream media throughout election. Plus even Snope.com debunked this alleged smear piece as false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/
Hilary Clinton, IT'S HER TURN DAMIT!!! /s
She's friends with Putin and has been funded by the Russians. She'd be just as much of a puppet as Trump. https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_51/1955941/170405-putin-flynn-dinner-jhc-1700_ae6b4cdd270c7a7f3720c0df3b07f9fb.fit-2000w.jpg Yeah, at the same table as Flynn. This is from 2015. Why are investigators interested in Stein? The environmentalist, an advocate of better relations with Russia, has been a Kremlin favorite since her first run as the Green Party's presidential candidate in 2012. She has regularly appeared on Russian state-owned television, including RT, and famously sat across from Russian President Vladimir Putin at a 2015 gala dinner. "The Russian embrace of Jill Stein was anything but subtle," said Andrew Weiss, a Russia expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "Russian state propaganda outlets like RT had a field day with her strident attacks on the U.S. political establishment, and they seemed to work hand in glove." Clint Watts, an NBC News analyst who has been tracking Russian election interference at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, said that Russia's intelligence agencies "sought to play both sides of the political spectrum to elevate Trump and turn down turnout for Clinton." Senate Russia investigators are interested in Jill Stein
"For my first executive order, I would like to announce... SKYRIM 2!"
It's not too late for Bernie.
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She "friends" of infamous Russian President over someone take literal non-spyish and normal pic at Gaia Dinner for RT's formation anniversary. Just like same Republicans before becoming Pro-Russian for accusing Obama and Hillary as "friends" for Putin during Obama tires to makes relations to Russia. Yes genius, Because I actually watch that happen in their infamous YouTube channel with "spooky devilish plans of destroying of America". Yes as normal guest along with other Anti-Establishment "Anti-American" guests from cross American political spectrum like Gary Johnson and Jesse Ventura as examples. And since I mentioned Gary, How did deserve get free pass from being accusing as Russian/Putin's sellout despite he got "taken votes" lot more than Jill did from either Hillary and Trump votes and also regularly appearing at RT since 2012 too? Hmm...
how about we make this guy general secretary of the UN and head of state of every nation in the world as well as US president? https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/225353/8f642a2c-158b-4243-b60f-04d6768a62f0/bucketman.jpg
Just someone to........do nothing. Ok, I think the millions of impoverished people are just as willing to wait for relief.
I motion to nominate my sister’s blind diabetic Jack Russell Terrier. Clearly they’re more qualified than anyone else who made it to the primaries last election cycle.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/7/7e/Toddthreatens.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20180426012141 I could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.
and they would still buy skyrim again next time I release it
Ideally I'd vote for Bernie or Warren, or any other progressive that would come along; realistically, no more celebrities. I want someone who knows wtf they're doing.
I should be President.
What if this painter is the one running on the platform though: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109874/25d5b244-a0fc-4f29-915e-6c8abfb9d913/image.png I think this older man is definitely the type to look to the failures and successes of his to-be predecessors such as Trump, Obama, and Bush and know how to move forward.
I can't think of any countries that do it like the US does, maybe the Philippines?
Dwayne The Rock Johnson on the libertarian ticket.
I don't totally understand what you're saying, but Bush is not a democrat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxWw37zRVc
That didn't explain anything
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