Spokesperson for GOP senate nominee calls majority black cities shitholes.
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My point is, the city outright refuses to acknowledge the shit going on and rather blame the crime instead. Republicans have held Georgia for years and just ignore the elephant in the room, while cutting programs constantly and giving tax breaks to corporations.
Ok thanks for invalidating yourself.
Everyone knows the best way to deal with political divisiveness is to intentionally piss people off
I think you need to take a break from the internet if poking fun at you bothers you that much.
Worse. Tudd would have been banned on the first day in Oldpunch if he had shitposted as hard as Cyke has been doing ever since the rules were relaxed.
Its like this everywhere though man. A city's government always either ignore an issue or create a scapegoat to drive attention away from an issue.
The city of Detroit did that too when I lived there. They let overweight trucks drive on the roads (giving preference to their corporate beneficiaries) then tossed salt on the roads come winter. Because of that, every public road in and around Detroit is utterly trashed and the city doesnt have the money to effectively fix the roads. Anytime the issue has been brought up it gets ignored.
Like I said, every city tends to suffer the same or similar issues and every party treats them the same. The party controlling the city doesn't matter, they both suck and both proffit off problems, not solutions.
What in the hell does that have to do with either party? Big trucks are needed to deliver supplies to and from the city on an daily basis, this goes with any city period. Potholes are an issue everywhere even outside the cities, what does this have to do with the poverty rate and supporting the poor?
Ah yes, the number one solution to divisiveness - wanton name-calling.
"The stakes have never been lower, but also I can't stop calling anyone who disagrees with me a child because I'm personally addressing the political divisiveness that's destroying the nation"
Could you be anymore disingenuous?
Flinging Ad hominems at people who disagree with me means I don't care! the stakes are really low and I don't give a shit! I'm totally rational!
Theres a difference between semis being used for bussiness and overweight semis that are too heavy for the road being used for bussiness. This is something I've only seen Detroit do and Detroit has by far the worst roads in the nation.
Bismarck North Dakota, the city I currently reside, has a fuck load of semi traffic coming through it. Oil, grain, agronomy, heavy power industry, windmills, you name it it comes through. Why doesn't this town have terrible roads? Because they have weigjt restrictions they heavily enforce and they dont throw salt on the roads during winter.
Potholes are an issue everywhere but Detroit is one of the few cities that refuse to address them and actively makes them worse.
I posted this the last time you acted like this but you remind me so much of skinner that I'll have to post it again
https://youtu.be/hYAuR5bkIlQ
That’s so radical center with the no commitment and the passively incorporating MAGA linguo, though. Perhaps, as you say the real causes of this misery truely are outside of reach for any political establishment at any time. But shithole status entails much more misery, with the bar initially being set at Haïti, a former French colony that reguarly gets fucked by a vast array of natural disasters.
At this point, unless your big idea to curb gang violence and corruption is anything short of canceling big cities altogether then I don’t see your point.
Ok thanks.
I have no idea what youre talking about. I'm not incorporating MAGA terminology in any of my posts and I havent been providing solutions either. Im simply pointing out that everybody sucks across all spectrums and being a bigot to pretend otherwise is dumb.
This is an internet forum dedicated to a mod to a singleplayer game that came out in 2004, so I dont know what I'm supposed to commit to.
I never said that solutions to problems were outside the political sphere, I said the problems exist across all of the political colors and no party has the power to fix it, or cares to fix it.
No idea what the Dominican Republic has to do with this.
I will assume you speak in good faith and really don’t remember why the spike in interest in the phrase shithole happened. Here have this.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/donald-trump-tweet-daca-rejection/index.html
It’s not inoccuous for the GOP to be so enamoured of the phrase whilst enabling their fair share of getthoization. This is not a matter of representatives and what political color they are, what I’m saying is that this pessimistic outlook on any political endeavor will not serve right when a better solution eventually comes around.
I’m actually quite sympathetic to the idea that very large cities are unsuitable for human life myself so that’s what I was hinting towards. Oh well.
It's true, Baltimore and New Orleans are competing for murder capitol of the nation, the Republicans running these places should be asham-
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Oh.
Funny you should mention Atlanta
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The term "shithole" existed im my vocabulary long before Trump tried running. Excuse me for not changing it to keep up with the banned terms.
Honestly I'm not interested in talking about neopolitical geoscapes, the viability of cities or any nonsensical shit like that. Like I said, not talking about solutions, just pointing out the obvious, so youll have to find someone else to provoke your bizaare ideas.
funny how you pick mayor and not governor. You know, the person with the political power to enforce taxation, budgeting, running interstate commerce, appointing officials, and having massive control in legislation. You know, massive key factors to controlling poverty/government programs.
But very nice try at blaming a dem mayor who is directly under the Governor. Because the mayor is indeed part of the legislative branch, whom the governor has massive control over. But real good zinger attempt that ended with you not understanding the branches of local governments.
And before you jump in going "WELL GEORGIA HAD DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS TILL THE LAST 2 ELECTIONS" 95% of them were either dixiecrats or before the party swap. The only democrat governors have been Jimmy Carter - Zell Miller. Atm we have Kemp running who's blaming crime and poverty on Mexicans and the poor respectively, and wants to slash even more government programs.
If you want to try and convince people that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans you could do a lot better than insulting them. I'm not sure why you think that is going to "deal with the political divisiveness".
Sorry, I forgot that the third largest metropolitan area in the entire southeast was completely helpless to do anything for itself. I wonder where all those local taxes, employees and officials go, seeing as how the entire city is apparently run by the state legislature.
lets see the other branches:
Executive:
Nathan Deal (governor) (R)
Casey Cagle (lieutenant governor) (R)
Legislative:
Senate is massively dominated by Rs at 66% majority
House of Representatives is also dominated with a 62% majority
Judicial:
Nonpartisan
So yes, I guess it is hard for a single mayor to be able to do anything when their entire government is controlled by an opposing party.
The state legislature literally doesn't matter. If Atlanta needs mo money fo dem programs then they can do it on their own; they've got the resources and as far as I know there's no law that says they can't. If you can hunt down some state law that explicitly says Atlanta can't run its own welfare program then we can argue about whether or not the legislature is strangling the city.
You're telling me the branch that controls ALL the financial powers of the state has no bearing on whether a mayor or local government can fund programs? Are you really this thick?
What are the branches of power and state government? Seriously, you have no fucking idea how local branches work at all. The mayor can enact programs but they still need the financial backing of the legislative branch. Where else will the money come from exactly?
The Legislature of a State also controls the finances of a State. Without the legislative sanction, a single paisa cannot be spent. The budget is introduced every year in the State Legislature. The State Legislature may pass, reduce, or reject the demands for grants made in the budget. It is its duty to find ways and means to meet the budget expenditure. Proposal for increase or decrease of taxes are to be approved in the Assembly.
In a bi-cameral legislature, the position of the Legislative Assembly superior to that of the Legislative Council in respect of financial matters. Excepting the expenditure charged on the Consolidated Fund of the State (which is non-votable) all other items of expenditure must be submitted to the Legislative Assembly in form of demands for grants. In financial matters, the Legislative Assembly is supreme in the State.
I use "deal" in the context of interact. I dont view myself as a crusader against political division and partisanship.
I dont have to be cordial to be right.
you're doing a great job at being neither
"Im not one cause im an adult" - Cyke Lon Bee
I'm here strictly to shit on everyone else's proposition whilst simumtaneously refusing to advance any proposition of my own so as to never give grounds for criticism
This might sound a little harsh, but you should probably shut your trap and leave. It's bad enough that every other post in this thread is you namecalling someone, but you having 0 point to make about the subject at hand is icing on the cake.
The STATE legislature has power over the use of STATE FUNDS. ATLANTA can do whatever it wants with ATLANTA'S FUNDS, which it has plenty of because Atlanta levies a 5% sales tax on top of the 4% state sales tax. If they really wanted to they could raise that even more, which they literally did last year to fund a bunch of transit projects. One of the chief figures campaigning for that referendum was Kasim Reed, the mayor of Atlanta 🤔
On top of that, the city has given huge tax breaks to big business that they could almost certainly roll back if they were really desperate to fund whatever pet projects the city administration came up with.
I made my point with my first post in this thread. I've been incredibly blunt and plain with my point. If you cant understand it then I cant help you.
I wanted to talk about my point, not about solutions to the point I was making or the future of mankind habitation. Dont get petty or butthurt because I wont indulge irrelevant philosophical nonsense.
If you're only here to state your opinion and you refuse to engage in any others, what's the point in discussing things on a forum?
I seriously have no idea who you are or why youre so held up on me.
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