• 22 activists 'abducted by Israeli troops in international Waters
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Since when, and accoding to whose law, a ship on a voyage, are prohibited to carry knives and wheelchair? Zionist law? Israel raid party is the one who initiate the aggression, they tried to board and capture the ship, on international water. Can you blame that ship responding to such pirate attack?
first, the capture was legal according to the Palmer report, nothing the israelis did was illegal bringing knives, bulletproof vests, and NVG units is blatantly trying to break the blockade
First, nobody other than Israel recognized Palmer report nowdays. That's almost like saying "I'm special because my mom said so!" Second, if I expect the possiblities of being attacked by pirate (in this case, Israel pirate), I would bring buletproof vest too, among other things. I mean, Israel pirate did shot 9 of them dead after all. And Israel extreme paranoia of 'blockade breach', which is an illegal blockade in the first place, does not make unlawful the lawful.
Dude, your article states israel now bans fucking concrete and rebar in fear of fucking bunkers. Meanwhile your nation bombs the living fuck out of their buildings and they have no way to quickly build it back up and have no shelter.
Plenty of things the Israelis did was illegal. The Palmer report says the force used was excessive. Even the International Crime Court says that. The IDF opened fire and was met with resistance as expected. The activists used knives and wooden and metal sticks. Only later, after the activists seized 3 IDF soldiers and used their weapons against the IDF. By this point, at least one activist was shot in the head and killed, and others were injured. Have a look at some of the things the investigators said: "From the evidence of passengers and the analyses supplied by a forensic pathologist and ballistic expert, six of the deceased were victims of summary executions. Two of them were shot they were severely injured and could not defend themselves. One deceased person had what is called a soft baton charge, called otherwise a bean bag, normally used for crowd control from a distance, lodged in his brain. The mission found that this was a discharge into the brain from a very close range, a sort of coup de grace into the right temple, suggestive of an execution type killing." "The mission realized very early that the Israeli government had taken extreme steps to control all visual material of the event. What it had released in public represented a minor fraction of the actual evidence in their possession. We found that as a fact. In the light of the seizure of cameras, CCTV footage and digital devices and the suppression of all material, with disclosure of a selected and minute quantity, quality of it, the mission was obliged to treat with extreme caution the versions of events released by the Israeli authorities where those versions differed from the evidence of eye witnesses who appeared before it." https://web.archive.org/web/20120118104828/http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/english/detail/102712.html "In one case, Ince said, a gunshot victim had been shot at at extremely close range. "From the analysis of the bullet distance on one of the bodies," Dr. Ince said, "the gun was fired between 2 and 14 centimeters' distance from the victim's head." http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/04/gaza.raid.autopsies/ The UN reports the cargo contained footwear, medical equipment, mobility scooters, generators, sofas and a huge amount of construction materials including cement. Only one ship contained a handful of bulletproof vests, and they were marked with a red crescent on them. They weren't worn by any activists either. We're talking about a country where over 1000 citizens were killed each year. In 2009 alone, 6471 people were injured by the IDF. At that point, a bulletproof vest is required for medics. Here is a picture of the knives found on Mavi Marmara, the only ship with knives on it: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/211377/a400d54b-74b3-4350-a7da-4ce7cf32213b/image.png Do you consider this enough weaponry to break a blockade? The majority of them are kitchen knives, and there's even a fucking honing steel among them.
yeah because when concrete and rebar was allowed Hamas used it to build tunnels, virtually none of it was used for civilian purposes
Yeah perfect excuse, I don't see israel offering to build back the places they destoryed. Instead they ban basic consruction materials under the guise of fear.
Then either your friend or the IDF is lying. They reported that they started firing paintballs and stun grenades before trying to board by boat, and opened fire using live ammunition before boarding by helicopter. The UNHRC's report describes the boarding: "Just minutes after soldiers from the zodiac boats had made initial unsuccessful attempts to board, the first helicopter approached the ship at approximately 0430 hours, hovering above the top deck. At this point between 10 and 20 passengers were located in the central area of the top deck, although this number increased as other passengers learned of events on the top deck. The Israeli forces used smoke and stun grenades in an attempt to clear an area for the landing of soldiers. The first rope that was let down from the helicopter was taken by passengers and tied it to a part of the top deck and thereby rendered ineffective for the purpose of soldiers’ descent. A second rope was then let down from the helicopter and the first group of soldiers descended. The Mission does not find it plausible that soldiers were holding their weapons and firing as they descended on the rope. However, it has concluded that live ammunition was used from the helicopter onto the top deck prior to the descent of the soldiers. "
So your second hand personal anecdote is now more legit and reliable than actual investigations? Aren't you the first person to ask for sources?
Can you do better? Its almost like you're insulting the inteligence of everybody here
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