• Facebook has identified an ongoing political influence campaign
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/politics/facebook-political-campaign-midterms.html#click=https://t.co/JvUtCKkXbF Who could be behind this 🤔
I feel bad for Zuck. He just wanted to make a shitload of money off his social networking site and it ends up turning into a powerful weapon used by every government
Mark's gonna need a firmware update after this one :\
You hear that whistling Almost like an incoming mortar? That's the sound of stocks plummeting
social media was a mistake
Reddit is a big platform for this shit too. I remember how /r/politics was die hard anti-clinton and pro-bernie, even up to the election night. While I understand that reddit in general is organically pro-bernie, the flood of anti-clinton headlines continued until election night. The conversation on reddit remained anti-clinton rather than anti-Trump even after Trump won the nomination. It wasn't until the day after the election that the noise cleared up and the headlines were all "What have we done?!?!?!?!". Reddit was absolutely targeted but the admins have been totally opaque about this. There should be a report button for bots that you suspect are astroturfing
Yes, but instead there is a 'you are banned for accusing other users of being bots/shills'.
Did you even browse /r/politics in 2016? Look at any of this shit leading up to the election and tell me it was anti-Clinton rather than anti-Trump. Wayback Machine
Some users blame Bernie for Clinton's loss instead of Clinton's terrible performance in the election and her completely uninspiring campaign she ran that neglected to follow the advice everyone, including her own husband, was giving to her. Instead they simply blame Bernie Sanders and can't imagine a scenario where Bernie was the better, more desired candidate than Clinton.
Heres how I think FB should shut down: a white page with a message in the facebook logo text: “Thank you, the experiment has concluded.” Imagine the fucking panic that would cause middle aged people around the world
Just redirect to MySpace
I think if two things had not happened Clinton would absolutely have won: 1.) No Russian psyops campaign 2.) Comey doesn't announce re-opening investigation Had neither happened, the world would be very different today
Finally made a Newpunch account so I can talk about how fucking awful this is, mainly focusing on the Facebook event. A event page for a legitimate, actually-occuring real-life protest -- one that had existed before and continues to exist after the Facebook event was created -- is disabled with incomplete notification (I had saved the event, and I got *nothing*) because the group that originally posted it had interacted with a Russian account in the past. Not because they suspect the "Resisters" group to be Russian - the article doesn't even try to imply that - but because they had interacted with an account. The extent of their suspicious activity, according to the press release, is coordinating other left-wing pages to co-host the event. Even if the page was Russian, the event is absolutely not; it is run by known local groups using known local infrastructure. This is the sort of red-scare bullshit I suspected was going to start when people first started talking about Russian spies as an existential and omnipresent threat. A major protest has now lost a lot of its organizing momentum because of the suspicions of a for-profit company's opaque security division, with no public oversight whatsoever -- which should lead to an uproar, but will probably be justified by "Russian security threat". When you want to dismiss fears about "Russian spies" being used as a means by which to dampen dissent, remember that that isn't a fever-dream hypothetical. It's stuff like this.
Nice try, Vadim
Clintons problem was that she was an unpersonable fuck that epitomizes the problems with the problem with the old guard in the democratic party, and how it completely failed to account for the issues faced by low-income white voters. The investigation into her mostly just catalyzed already right-leaning voters. But saying that Reddit was intensely anti-Clinton misses the point, really. Further, saying most americans wouldn't have voted for a socialist is becoming less and less true - may I remind you of a recent congressional candidate who was blatantly socialist and still managed to secure a victory? That word is not the problem. Again, it's not being pro-bernie or w/e that was the issue. It was the democratic parties utter failure to adapt to the times and modify their platform, coupled with just a terrible candidate that felt uncoupled from the struggles of the working class.
in NEW YORK. Try getting people in Virginia, Florida, or Wisconsin to vote for her
Please good god I hope Facebook gets fucking scoured from the surface of the earth sometime soon. I know it's a long shot but hot fucking damn I don't want anything to do with it and everything I hear about it is just shit. Twitter can get flushed down the toilet too for all I care.
This still isn't really entirely relevant: you're addressing why a socialist or far left candidate couldn't win in America, which is a bit hard to analyze imo. Especially given that populist leaders are the flavor of these past few years, unfortunately. I'm trying to point out why Clinton didn't win, and why it's silly to indirectly throw pro-Bernie sentiment under that bus
He's not exactly an an innocent man so uhhh
having pretty much moved entirely to twitter - including replacing most of my usage of FP with twitter, tbh - i hope not. twitter could use better content control, but it's not as easy to completely monopolize or control as facebook. facebook does really suck though.
I'm not throwing pro Bernie sentiment under the bus, I'm just saying I dont believe Bernie would have appealed to the majority of Americans. He didnt even appeal to the majority of democrats
Nothing Bernie proposed is socialist, right wingers just call everything to the left of Pinochet socialist.
Except polls very obviously showed that he polls better than Clinton. His chances of winning in all polls leading up to her nomination showed him out performing her. He actually speaks better to Americans than she does by actually addressing their issues. He spoke about problems that the majority of Americans are faced with and they liked what he had to say, on both sides of the spectrum. A lot of Republican voters wanted to vote for him over both Trump and Clinton.
Oh so the Democrats hacked voting machines to change votes? Surely that's what you mean when you say rigged?
no? you are selectively extracting from each person's posts the words or phrases that you can most turn to your advantage - stop it all anyone here has tried to say is that the DNC failed to choose a good candidate they attempted to delegitimize a candidate that was polling better, in favor of their chosen one the DNC has deep problems with their platform that they need to address, in order to grab more voters but good post dude
1) Don't be an obtuse prick, least of all on purpose. 2) Do you not remember "Bernie bros" and all the other propaganda? I wasn't even in America and I remember it, and it was absolutely disgusting.
Still, all he wanted to do was sell people's personal information, not reinstitute the Russian Empire.
Just needs to be accompanied by a Vault Tec logo and the slogan Prepare for the Future
ever since the internet went from "NEVER USE YOUR REAL NAME ONLINE" to "Hi, what your name? I'm going to learn everything about you to the point of being able to manipulate the shit out of you!" shits really went down hill
He wasn't saying that. You're a tool.
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