Trump urges Sessions to end Mueller probe 'right now' - Polidicks

Russian money is why we have this 'tard in office'.

This is only somewhat related to this thread, but people have been making frequent comparisons between current, addled-ass dumb fucker Trump and together-in-the-head 80s/90s Trump and something suddenly clicked. I admit this is a total long shot and I have literally zero solid or even implied evidence for this, so I admit it's bordering on conspiracy theory territory, but does anyone else think Russia may have been poisoning Trump to make him not dead but dumber? He's had relationships with important leadership figures and now Putin proxies for decades, and for the last five years those relationships have only intensified as he tried to get Trump Tower Moscow built and Russian interest, support, and then interference in his 2016 presidential race intensified. It's not out of consideration to speculate that Trump could have been exposed to or fed any drug the Russian state clandestine apparatus was able to manufacture, and as we've seen Novichok agents are in that list. Trump today acts almost like he's had lots of small strokes and he's still there but they've left him significantly diminished, and his narcissistic personality absolutely refuses any notion that he is in less than the image of health. He is, after all, a very stable genius.

Or maybe he just got old and entrenched in conservative beliefs as people often do. If Trump was a regular dude he would be a retiree living in a small house/retirement home somewhere watching Fox News all day long, as his grandkids say "oh grandpa!" as he complains about the Mexicans taking our jobs.

They'll come for you eventually.

Neither Sessions or Rosenstein will end the investigation, one of them would have to be fired first.

I'm picturing Mueller coming out and saying alright, here's the indictments, it's 45% of Congress and the Senate because they're all committing financial crimes together and my investigation is bringing it all to light God how sweet would that be

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-whitehouse/white-house-says-trump-did-not-order-attorney-general-to-end-mueller-probe-idUSKBN1KM5SZ I was merely pretending.

How about you let him speak for himself, Fuckabee. Also: She denied that Trump was obstructing the probe. “He’s fighting back,” she said. Isn’t that the same fucking thing?

Are you saying you want to... make america great again?

Guy's in his seventies with a family history of racism and dementia. I think it's safer to assume nature is taking its course, unfortunately not fast enough to kill him already though. Also given the conditions in some of his buildings, lead poisoning is not out of the question, but not proven either.

I can always move back to the UK, I see no reason to get arrested for thought crimes in a country that I'm only in because I hold dual citizenship and thought brexit was the worst possible thing I could be living through given my options.

Trump's literally on-board with the idea of serving Putin's political enemies up on a platter -- even if they're extranational. I think that speaks volumes about what he'd be willing to do to former citizens.

Trump also has a horrendiously short attention span, if you're not directly in his vision at this very moment he pretty much seems to forget you exist within a short time. Forgive me for not wanting to protest him on his doorstep during the hypothetical event where he's enacting a dictatorial transition to power.

Your first mistake is going on Reddit for politics. The place is literally divided into echochambers. r/politics itself is leftist to extreme-left, with occasional far-right trolls.

Fuck no, I wouldn't lay low. If the 'New People's Republic of the United States' ever happened, I'd rather die fighting. I refuse to live in such a hellscape. And you should, too.

My worry is that it'll be something similar to this...and then Congress decides they won't do anything about it.

"yeah we're all terrible, but you voted for us so lol deal with it"

I think the NY investigation on Cohen will be more damaging which is good because Trump can't interfere with a state investigation.

That downward slide started decades ago.

Yeah, the president isnt that powerful, even Trump isnt shit enough to damage us that bad in just half a term It could be argued that he helped it along but he aint that important.

Part of me wants to think that like, way back in the late 70s/early 80s, even the Soviets knew their time was just about up, and things weren't looking too great across the board, so maybe a few of them got together, started networking, and started to push for some more subtle means of fighting and defeating the US in a much more long-term game. Even after the USSR fell. The US could feel as though they 'won the war', inflating their ego, which would speed up their downfall. Using various forms of mass media (television, magazines, video games, the Internet, etc) they could poison the American mindset, and in the long run, begin to slowly turn them against each other. Maybe even helping to introduce some of the same ticks that helped the USSR fall, such as Whataboutism. I dunno, maybe I'm spouting a bunch of conspiratorial garbage though.

It doesn't sound too crazy, but I don't think its true. Would make a great book tho.

Donald doo little is such a stinky ass bitch. I hope he gets the fuck out office asap.

Something definitely changed for the worst in the 80's for him, a decade before that he seemed... almost human. I don't think Russia poisoned or him as he's always held conservative opinions but I do think the Russians emboldened his bad opinions.

I think a life time of getting your way and having everything brought to you because money's no object really takes a toll on one's grasp of fucking reality

How many times has Trump said or done something stupid or awful only for one of his staff members to go to the press and literally just go "Nu-uh, no he didn't"

It's actually not as farfetched as you'd think. Soviet propaganda about and towards America always favored secessionism and regionalism, hence why they funneled cash, political asylum, and more recently bots to the Texan Independence and Black/White Nationalist movements. They were hoping that they could collapse the US either into warring factions or its constituent states (had this happened in the Soviet days they were hoping to "oppressed Russian minority" Alaska in the process), this idea only intensified as the "Union" and Yugoslavia began to collapse as Soviet political theorists saw it occurring at home as proof that it could happen in America.

While we're indulging in more wayward trains of thought, I tend to wonder where this all started on the U.S. side of things. Trump's election, should it actually turn out - against all current public evidence - to have been legitimate, would've been from a number of factors. Republicans' seething hatred towards Obama throughout his entire turn (and we all know it's because they'd rather he be picking cotton... on the plantation that they as temporarily embarrassed billionaires would totally have if not for them damn libs) Continued post-9/11 xenophobia Distrust of Hillary on top of the existing distrust of the Clintons (not to say they're saints), not helped by the perception that she or at least the DNC "stole" the primary in her favor from the progressive Bernie Sanders, turning even many Democrats off from her The specter of Ronald Reagan's continued deification among Republicans, and Trump being reminiscent of him in being a populist Hollywood star running with promises of making America "great again" (as in more like 1950, and yes, Reagan used that slogan too) The continuing Fox News propaganda machine fueling all of the above Coming off of Obama, who was admittedly elected primarily because people were in turn fed up with Bush, who in turn was elected partly because of people's growing distaste for the Clintons, especially with Republicans moving to impeach Bill over Lewinsky (even despite the fact that Trump has taken several laps off of Bill by now when it comes to sexual misconduct and yet the Republicans haven't lifted a finger this time). This is on top of the Fox News propaganda machine and deification of Reagan even back then. Reagan himself being the golden idol of conservatism and fantasies of returning to that idyllic 1950s zeitgest where (white) men were men, their wives and children were their implicit property, colored people were unseen, and every (white male adult) person had his own house and car in perfect pastel Stepford suburbia without all that "gang weed" and demonic [insert popular media of any decade from the 1960s onward] tainting that Jesus-loving paradise. This image of Reagan once again being helped along by the Fox News propaganda machine, Fox News itself being made to ensure another Watergate never happened again (not in terms of the scandal itself, but in terms of the public consciousness turning so far against a Republican president that the government had to take the scandal seriously). Hell, didn't Nixon's own presidency ultimately come about from a series of events starting with the swearing in of JFK's vice president after JFK - the most forward-facing president America had yet seen at that point - was assassinated?

It kind of makes sense when you think about it. There's a variety of martial arts techniques specifically crafted to use your opponents power against them. What better way to tear down a nation that's ahead of you in almost every way than to turn it against itself?

Technically all it would have needed is a group of politically very motivated oligarchs, but with the fall of the Soviet Union the financial chaos happening was fairly overwhelming. I'm pretty sure most were thinking more about how to profit from the crash itself than long term battles with the US.