John McCain Will No Longer Be Treated for Brain Cancer, Family Says
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Is it a bad time for a reminder that McCain was the chairman of an organization who's website was spoofed by a Russian entity that Microsoft blocked and shut down?
I mean...
"Although McCain was seriously wounded and injured, his captors refused to treat him. They beat and interrogated him to get information,and he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discoveredthat his father was a high-ranking admiral.[41] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[42][43]
McCain spent six weeks in the hospital, where he received marginal care. He had lost 50 pounds (23 kg), was in a chest cast, and his gray hair had turned as white as snow.[38] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi.[44] In December 1967, McCain was placed in a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live more than a week.[45] In March 1968, McCain was placed into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[46]
In mid-1968, his father John S. McCain Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release[47] because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[48] and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially.[47]McCain refused repatriation unless every man taken in before him was also released. Such early release was prohibited by the POWs'
interpretation of the military Code of Conduct which states in Article III: "I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy".[49]
To prevent the enemy from using prisoners for propaganda, officers were
to agree to be released in the order in which they were captured.[38]"
Jake Tapper: I hope I don't run this clip for another 50 years. But how do you want the American people to remember you?
John McCain: He served his country and not always right. Made a lot of mistakes. Made a lot of errors, but served his country. And I hope we could add honorably.
I guess being imprisoned and tortured to within an inch of your life (at one point he was beaten every two hours for four days straight) puts shit in perspective. Someone getting more x's against their name than you isn't that bad
"But remember he clearly wanted to arm Islamic terrorists and clearly, absolutely, was completely self-aware of them attacking people. He was there given the new ak-47s to the Terrorists groups."
Nice gish gallop you got there.
I'm not even the kind of person who deifies the military, but the level of disrespect shown a former POW is genuinely sickening tbh. Fuck off with this ~songbird~ shit- your Idol Trump would break in literal minutes when faced with what McCain went through. For you? even less.
Positively barbaric of those brown folks to beat up a white guy dropping chemical weapons on them. I could justify in my mind practically - no, positively - any action taken or words said by that white guy, from enthusiastically and with admitted pleasure using racist epithets to leading a decades-long political career of non-commitment to any objection stronger than "I wish we'd stripped the poor of healthcare using protocols and procedures that I'm comfortable with" to a cabal of slavering ghouls that everyone somehow ends up painting him as a moderating stalwart against instead of a two-faced opportunist who votes the same way as every other shitheel but with lip service to his disenfranchised constituents. He's above reproach!
I don't have much respect for McCain because when it matters, most of the time he agrees with Trump. But cancer is a bitch for anyone.
McCain didn't turn out to be the bastion of reason I think everyone wanted him to be, but most of the time he wasn't a shameless piece of shit. So obviously he found he had no place in the GOP of today.
Mc Cain was principled, he was not particularly decent. Political policy is unlike any other job outside of something like NASA or medical practices where you essentially need to have your shit together and be "right" at almost all times. You should probbaly check his recording before declaring him Captain Justice in absentia.
ffs.
i said.
"THE LAST BIT OF DECENCY"
Not saying he's the fucking second coming of Christ. Like my point is that the republican party has become so corrupted, John McCain looks like a saint in comparison.
You would think that, but distance and wealth and keeping circles of logistical power tend to change your perspective. He was also racist as shit in the genteel posh southern kind of way where you marvel at the skill of the menial rustics as they entertain you for the evening.
You know i'd like to have some fucking sources of John McCain deliberately wanting to drop Agent Orange. Instead of being just a soldier following orders.
Do you think John McCain personally authorized the war in Vietnam? He was a soldier, dispatched to fight a war that he had no say in. You are insane if you think he had any say in that.
Where the hell is this "Ruining the natives" shit coming from?
Like FFS you guys need to start putting up some fucking sources or shut up.
I dislike McCain because he embodies the worst geopolitical aspect of American geopolitics. A thoroughly rotten man both inside and outside who gleefully hands out support and weapons to clearly psychopathic groups because they fight against someone McCain and his lik would like to see toppled. Only to be surprised when those groups turn their guns against America and the rest of the Western World soon afterwards, like that last dozen times people like McCain tried that. I know that his brain was already rotting away at that point, but would he honestly think that those so-called moderate Islamic terrorists in Syria he funded, who went around gleefully beheading children in areas they 'liberated', wouldn't turn on the US Army at a moment's notice?
And one hell of a lot on the rottenness McCain's character can be said on how he reacted to Trump pulling support for those moderate child beheaders. He accused Trump of being a Russian stooge. Despite Trump explicitly pulling that support, since who the fucking hell wants to fund groups of lunatics who film themselves beheading children? Apparently that didn't matter to John McCain at all. To this day, he never ever addressed the entire matter of the terrorists that he funded, that he personally handed weapons to, went around beheading children with those instead.
I know that I might not be the best judge of character around, but if I ever defend groups of terrorists going around beheading children, I'd rather fucking neck myself. In my opinion, Trump made the morally sound call on cutting off those terrorists, while McCain complained about pulling support to terrorists like that. McCain is truly a piece of shit. I am not calling for his demise, but him kicking the bucket is doing the universe an objective favor. And don't even pretend that no-one here would cheer on if anything bad were to happen to Trump, there are enough posters on this site wishing for his immediate violent demise, you dirty hypocrite.
Bullshit, even Reuters is reporting on that issue. It's one of the main reasons why I opposed the EU's request a few years ago to send money to the Ukranian government.Apart of that deal being done without any input of any European citizen, I'm not trusting the Ukranian government to not put the EU's aid straight into their own pockets as well.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY
Not as hard as McCain scurries away from families of missing POWs and MIA from Vietnam. Despite him flaunting his ''I'm a Vietnam POW'' at every given turn, McCain surely had put a lot of effort in his bills regarding the aftermath of the Vietnam War to leave the families of missing POWs and MIAs completely in the dark. He never answered the calls and letters of those families during his decades-long political career, on why he prevented the families of those missing POWs and MIAS to get any kind of closure. And as it stands, they will never get any closure, McCain is going to take that to his grave.
Why Has John McCain Blocked Info on MIAs? | The Nation
See the points I made above. To add to that, I find it disgustingly ironic that a man who was a POW for years had zero qualms about starting other wars during his tenure as senator. And wanting the Syria War to become Iraq 3.0 with a side of Vietnam 2.0 to it. To me, it really feels like McCain was trying to at least pretend to be decent at planning wars, given how garbage his actual aptitude in fighting wars himself was. Some people really aren't cut out for wars, despite how hard they pretend to. McCain definitely falls into that group. His refusal to accept that, has made the world more of damned mess than if he just went ahead and realised that he wasn't cut out for it after all after folding up his first plane.
The amazing thing is that McCain is a real bro too.
Where are you getting that i'm praising him.
Cause i never did. I said he ain't perfect, but compared to the rest of the Republican Party. He looks like a saint in comparison.
Like do i have to spit in his face to make you happy?
Also thanks for linking a random-ass youtube channel instead of an actual article explaining the situation.
doubtful he returns to the capital again.
I vocally opposed the way Obama handled Syria. If regime change was the objective we should have gone all the way. If it wasn't, then we shouldn't have committed at all. Trump pulling the CIA arms plan was one of the very, very few things I praised about his presidency. I think it was the biggest failure of Obama's second term, arguably his entire presidency. In a vacuum we probably wouldn't disagree. But this isn't a vacuum and I know exactly where your biases lie, so I am going to retort with two points
1) McCain's support for the CIA arming Syrian rebels is not the only act of military intervention happening in Syria and compared to the warmongering occuring across Africa and the Middle East is a tiny part of a foreign policy that Trump has otherwise pushed whole heartedly, continuing to support Saudi Arabia in it's horrific atrocities in Yemen, and drone strikes elsewhere. Your anger is so needlessly focused on one person who was a very small part of the thing you seem to hate, and you have outright praised and gone out of your way to defend the man who is doing far, far worse for American foreign policy than McCain ever could. This leads me to question your reasoning.
2) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I want proof showing McCain backed supporting moderate groups who later began killing innocents with US arms.
Your use of hypocrite here only works if I personally have shown glee in the "violent demise" of Trump, which I haven't.
"I might not be the best judge of character" is a pretty big understatement though
I've only had time to skim the article because I have to go to work in an hour but as far as I can tell, the information regarding MIA/POW's that he wants remain classified is the information the Pentagon remains classified. The article neglects to postulate why the Pentagon might want this, despite pontificating on McCain perhaps being motivated by a sense of grief and guilt, and goes on to attack McCain's compromise on two different bills regarding the subject. Granted, his reasoning that he "doesn't want to expose families to more grief" is strange.
Also, if I wanted to be really rude I could note the fact that this source has a high factual rating but a left-leaning bias on MBFC, observe the fact that it was written less than two months before the 2008 election, and come to the conclusion that this is just more poor journalism from the Fake News media attacking conservatives, but I don't want to be that guy.
I don't see the irony. Someone who was himself in combat and became a POW can still endorse wars if they believe the cause to be just. If anything, one could argue that they appreciate the cost of war more than your ordinary citizen. Certainly more than Trump, if we are going to talk about people "aren't cut out for wars" (presumably in part from your extensive wartime experience), given his medical deferment from Vietnam for bone spurs that prevented him from marching but didn't prevent him from playing basketball.
It's absolutely adorable that you think anyone here will believe your transparent attempt act like you give the slightest nanoscopic iota of fuck about any of those things.
I used to see you as naive, but you're just a straight up cunt
So i'm just going to go out on a limb and ask these questions to you bluntly: Why are you so slavishly devoted to the populist Trump worldview?
Are you just an easily led retard that fully buys into Russian propaganda? Are you that much of a raging xenophobe that you profess undying loyalty to any figure who might reduce the chances of you having to see brown people on the rare occasions you leave your room?
Did your nurse forget to give you your meds again?
I dislike McCain too, because I fundamentally disagree with him on a vast majority of his political stances. Including his quiet support of Trump's agenda.
Despite all of this bullshit, it's fairly apparent that you don't like him simply because he's vocally anti-Trump.
Only one of us is gleefully celebrating the fact he's going to die of brain cancer. I find that interesting.
Yeah
usually when treatment gets discontinued it usually means they are at death's throes and cant withstand the treatment
that or their insurance company decided to be a penis
It's wild to me how Republicans have more contempt for McCain than Democrats
https://twitter.com/KyungLahCNN/status/1033107021896146944
Saying you're glad someone is dying of brain cancer is bad enough, but if you say that you're glad someone, anyone was tortured as a POW then you can rot in fucking hell.
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