GOP 'hell' document lists investigations Dems may launch if they take the House
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look who sponsored the SC decisions, both parties were responsible for gutting the 2002 limits. now our only hope baring a reversal of the supreme court is to make 503c donations public which will again be sent to the courts, which have been stacked by the federalists to not see any circumstances where individual freedoms need to be restrained for the good of the state.
I love how chad disagrees, like the green party has any chance of making any sort if footing.
I know it's been said before, but imagine how many of those things individually would be a huge potentially-impeachment-discussion controversy for any other president
For any Democratic president? All of them.
For a Republican president? Doubtful.
Dems don't have the best volunteer propaganda arm since Communist China.
I already sadly know they can’t win in presidential elections because obvious long term consequences from Spoiler effect and Electoral College prevent them winning.
But it doesn’t means they mostly win currently with 158 local seats and converted two ex-Democratic Senators (one them is non-voting type) from Maine to join Maine Independent Green Party. (Green Party’s Maine chapter)
Do you want them to win when they're literally running Russian-picked stooges? I mean, if you're against corruption there's little more corrupt than a hostile nation putting stooges into office to work for their government rather than yours.
Oh great, This again repeating same “talking point” from same American Mainstream Networks that help both Hillary and Trump wins.
It's not a talking point if its true. If the Green Party doesn't like that they're being infiltrated they could just, y'know, vet their candidates.
isn't the leader of the green party an anti-vaxxer / libertarian
But in last case was literal opposite that most seemly real reasonable (Bernie Sanders and John Kasich as examples) candidates got rejected by toxicity insane voters to bad or worst candidates like “folk”/faux populist like Trump or faux big tent woman like Hillary, Who likely won’t change anything with Status Quo but make things steadily okay to downright bad.
I don't believe there is an actual 'leader' of the green party. As far as I'm aware, they have a National Committee which 'steers' the party which has something like 8 co-chairs who all have equal say on that stuff. They also meet almost entirely online.
You mean former presidential candidate like Jill Stein or GNC (Green National Committee)?
Yes, and? Jill Stein being a stooge made all third-party candidates look bad by comparison because Third Party Candidates don't have a 'strong public image or awareness' to begin with.
That's not an excuse for the Green Party failing to vet their own candidate. You're basically saying 'it doesn't matter who anyone tries to put out as a candidate because nobody cares' which is for damn sure going to be true so long as these third parties fail to vet their candidates. If they're not going to be serious, they're not going to be looked at seriously. Every single candidate they run should be squeaky-clean and free from foreign influence - otherwise they only strengthen the presently established main parties.
Accused ‘Russian stooge’ by same Pro-Democrat biased media right after that election was over and same networks by making her and her party with limited to no fair coverage but mixed-to-negative to downright negative just feels terriblely entitled whatever if they rise in polls.
Course they never be serious if majority Americans need to realized Spolier effect is begin ruining this country.
Like Hillary, Obama or any either party politicians supposedly be clean from foreign intervene them is dumbly unrealistic and clueless naive that not all them could be effect from dark money by their rival country’s oligarchs or even their their leaders.
Jill was attending RT anniversary gala meeting in public is not count as foreign influence by definition if that’s what clearly biased Mainstream media what you or everyone else to believe.
But if Hillary or mostly likely Trump doing this closed doors are in fact real definition of foreign influenced.
Yes, including the very 'biased' and 'often factually wrong' Associated Press in your mind, I imagine?
I imagine this very picture, itself, is 'Pro-Democrat'? Is her seating also 'Pro-Democrat' because she chose to be literally to the right of Putin's Spokesman? Is it 'Pro-Democrat' 'biased news' that Michael Flynn was there -- who has plead guilty to Lying to the FBI in conjunction with the probe into Russian activity in the 2016 elections -- who is seated directly next to Putin in this image?
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_51/1955941/170405-putin-flynn-dinner-jhc-1700_ae6b4cdd270c7a7f3720c0df3b07f9fb.fit-760w.jpg
And DJT Jr. was just 'having a meeting with a crown prosecutor of Russia'. Yeah, sure. Let's ignore all of the cloud of evidence surrounding her and instead call it all fake news because it's politically inconvenient for you. She chose to attend RT's anniversary gala. But I'm sure that's just the biased Mainstream media that forced her to go there, right?
And this is just breathtakingly bad. You're literally stating here 'well we can't stop anyone from being a puppet of other countries, so we should just endorse the puppet that speaks publicly on issues that we care about because surely they'll follow through on it!'
The Green Party is held to a higher standard because it's a party that's running anti-corruption and third-party. If they don't like that, then by all means they can simply quit and leave it to other parties who are more interested in actually effecting change.
If other left-wing parties doing that, They will instantly get same accusation like Gree Party have in future.
AP still can be rarely biased to either parties like last time with Hillary’s win just to little early in California’s Democratic primary before official winner declared.
Yes course Trump Jr. (part of Oligarchic family, Stein was local politician from Massachusetts with 10,000-15,000 dollar make for her?) attend Anniversary meeting than his dad because if Trump attend it, they will get Trump kickoff Republican Primaires early.
Again if you hear me, I said their just more than just literally same picture or two that same media group keep using to Demonized her. If you go to their RT YouTube channel or their livestream version to see that all recorded.
And for part you said accusing me of calling American “Mainstream” media “fake news”. Well they literally biased to support on one specific candidates and two parties. (Right wing news always worship Republicans and “Left” wing news usually sided Democrats with only Centrist and Right-wing candidates like how they don’t even reporting ‘Democratic Socialist’ Ms. Cortez back in June.)
And as I've pointed out, there's far more than that picture that damns her with those accusations. How do you defend her campaign refusing to release their documents which detail their policy decisions regarding Russia as 'she's just being demonized' when she is shown sitting at a table with a man who worked directly with Putin who was a part of a conspiracy to fraudulently collude with Russia to alter the US 2016 Presidential Elections -- of which she was a candidate?
Bias is not 'fake news'. Fabricated news is fake news. It's not fabricated, ergo the most you could claim is bias. Bias does not change facts. Facts are facts; truth is truth.
So you want them to cover every single person with about the same amount of coverage regardless of national interest in those persons? I hope you enjoy your 'balanced reporting' when they can spend about 2-5 seconds on each person.
tired of winning~
Oh really genius that I assume forget Libertarian Party existed and they “taking” both parties votes than Green Party if... oh yea have worst Presidential candidates. That why more of my generation and veterans voting for them becausing polling says they are third lead.
And your unfortunate TV Mainstream media can’t never be truly perfect as long their corrupted laws and CEO or newscasters biases will ruining for them. Will get people lose trust of them.
Because I’m psychologically still Stein supporter like other couple threads while ago.
And I glad you finally call your belief an conspiracy theory.
Where she said like that with (admitted) that Hippe-like voice, And please to find her videos either randomly or with some Mainstream media videos without linking from some crappy Democratic loyalists circles and websites like Daily Kos.
All wouldn’t been happen if your Mainstream media report them fairly (including other third parties) if as treat both two parties with respect then.
Yes like most everyone used to trust him just because we thought he wasn’t biased to right-wing circles.
Again where you hear that? But I will guess pundits or bias media I love keep calling them.
This reads like a confession. The dems had no such list when the republicans took the house in 2010 because the dems weren't behaving in such an egregiously negligent way running the country. They KNOW they (and especially Trump) have catastrophically mismanaged the country for almost a decade now
I will. Because you have yet to refute a single point of his aside from whining about "Mainstream media bias".
And forget that she literally did this twice while going to her Twitter account. But seems SIC keep throwing her documents to just please Russiagaters.
I was going to respond to all of your distractions but I think this about sums it all up. You think that the whole thing's a conspiracy and, even if it wasn't, you'd be fine with it because you think 'everyone does it' and expecting people to not collude with foreign powers in flagrant violation of our laws is 'unrealistic'.
You live in a world removed from the one we live in. If you'd like to come back to reality and argue about all this, feel free to eject all that nonsense at any time. You are literally championing an anti-corruption party which is acting corruptly and opaquely while forgiving them of any corruption and opaqueness: ergo you don't care about the actual reality or objective of the thing, all you care about is the appearance of the thing because you're inventing your own reality for it to live in.
And if all you care about is appearances then all we're doing is arguing over your opinions. I don't debate opinions because they don't live in the real world; they live in your head. If you'd like to be convinced your own opinions are wrong when the evidence they're right is also backed entirely by your own opinions, then the only thing that could ever convince you is yourself.
We seriously need a system where lawmakers aren't in charge of laws that apply primarily to lawmakers
Lawmaker-law lawmakers?
I'd be wholly in favor with that sort of thing being handed off to the Judicial Branch since it's proven that the Legislative can't be held to account for itself for years at a time.
Before that it should be that 66 votes are needed to confirm a judge or justice to stop partisan bullshit, was 60 before Harry Reid and McConnell got pissy and used the nuclear option.
Yea, I was think same thing from your unintentional Gaslighting, Shaming and Stalking on me, everytime I said something unorthodox and unusal in American politics by accusing me for "wrong" despite all I'm saying weren't just (if not all them) "False" memories back in 2016 election from Anti-Establishment/Pro-Bernie (ex)Democrat+Third Party voter POV but all them (best I could remember from them) did happen while I'm outside of Bipartisan box and sadly as seen here an false reality.
I do readily call people out when they state things that aren't true, yes, and further call them out when they respond to my stating that they're not true with 'well I believe they're true that doesn't make me wrong because I'm right you're just a two-party shill'. I'm an anti-establishment, pro-Sanders, Independent and Third-party Voter myself, Chad - so my POV on those things is just as valid as yours, especially since I was in the thick of it and you seem to be inventing things whole-cloth.
If you're annoyed with being shamed over stating falsehoods then there is a very readily available solution to that: Stop stating falsehoods and shifting the blame for your own problems to others. RE: Gaslighting - if your memory does not align with the facts then you're gaslighting yourself.
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