• Trump suggests protesting should be illegal
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If we're going to talk about the root of it, I'd argue that gerrymandering and money in politics are good places to look at too.
How much longer is America gonna let this go on for. We have witnessed things that would have given any other president life in prison. Yet we have an entire political party dedicated to being a cult for this guy and they would happily let the US become a dictatorship if it meant "owning the libs"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wXRvvGr8Ug Time to bring out the Animal masks and count your 50 Blessings.
Our only hope for this country's continued survival at this point is that the massive losses in the midterms cause a schism in the party, and the cult side dies out.
The only peaceful hope, at the least, and what would be required for a non-peaceable option would ruin us for decades to come - if we even ever recover from it instead of simply fracturing like we did in the Civil War or descending into even further anarchy and isolationism.
"What are you talking about, protesting a government slowly devolving into fascism isn't free speech. Free speech just means I should have the right to be a massive bigot and not be called out for it!"
"Throw free speech into the trash to own the libs!"
Well with the absolute deafening inaction from both dominant political parties and muellers habit of taking his sweet time, were looking at another two years or fascism if we aren't graced with the CIA taking him for a drive through Deely Plaza
I feel like it goes way deeper than the Republicans. We're talking about a system of being where people actually identify with Trump, where Trump can and is allowed to happen and where stunned onlookers can't do much other than complain as he systematically attacks everyone and everything that isn't him. Social media, capitalism, neo-liberalism, custom reality, and a sort of liberal approach to democracy and conversation and debate that leads to making bold faced lies your main campaign slogans perfectly OK and in-fact encouraged.
You know what should be illegal? A president under criminal investigation subverting the justice department to bend it to his own will nominating a supreme court justice and rushing it through while withholding shit tons of records and not even acknowledging people who are pointing that fact out
tl;dr Never let it be forgotten that The Republican party is not the problem. They are symptomatic of the problem
This, the american political system is broken and corrupt to the core.
A president who proclaims with zero shame that parts of the first amendment should be illegal. Neat.
It's been a reversal of my general opinion up 'till this point but honestly over the course of the past week or so I've begun to think that it's time for anyone who opposes the state of the current administration in this country to begin arming themselves. Not to take any immediate action, but as a contingency for the future. We cannot expect those who have typically viewed themselves as a safeguard against tyranny in this country to come to our aid because they've been brainwashed by the administration and the right-wing propaganda network currently operating in this country and will either not hear about its excesses, or have been conditioned to brush said excesses off via doublethink. There are problems with this, of course. If it comes to violence, it will be a civil war, but I'd rather have a civil war than a political purge and if this sort of rhetoric reaches its natural conclusion a political purge is exactly what we're going to get.
You don't riot. Riots are unfocused, convey no message, and don't build sympathy. They're ineffective. You find key individuals and organizations and you take the fight to them. If we were talking different country, like Venezuela, I'd be more explicit. But I don't want to advocate anything that might get me unkind visits.
I assume you're including Republican voters under the mantle of "The Republican Party." Because good lord. Just overheard an old geezer at work today, recounting from his clearly dementia raddled brain about the supposed good old days when we fucking executed people for refusing to say the pledge of allegiance or salute the flag. Now, as far as I know, this has never happened - not even in the 18 century, let alone the 20th. So to hear our elders express their admiration for utterly fascist policies that have never even existed in the history of the country, tells you how much deep shit our country is in. These fuckers are the reason people who aren't white, straight, cis, christian, and conservative can't have nice things.
If he bans protesting, does that mean trumptards can't cry about nike and that nfl guy?
And the Charlottesville rally that he said had good people on both sides.
I'm just gonna steal this reddit post The Republican party did this They've been doing this for actual decades. From the second Roosevelt enacted the New Deal, it has become the Republican mission to never ever lose again in order to ensure their financial interests are never jeopardized and their authority is never challenged I think it's time to bring an old ghost up from its grave. Just congressional voting records on a whole host of issues involving the US political process and money in politics. Notice any recurring trends in it? You cannot look at the collective history of the Republican party and then tell me they're not somehow a major component of the god damn problem Senator Whitehouses Opening Remarks Supreme Court Hearing And the transcript helpfully provided by an industrious redditor. If you only read one part of this post, it should be this part I've been neck deep in this shit for two straight years. This man has been neck deep longer than I have been alive. This isn't just arbitrary partisan bitching. This is a genuine fucking concern of mine that comes from a place of just knowing basic fucking things about the history of the party I couldn't find a graceful segue into this article, but it is a good read nonetheless I couldn't give one dusty fuck about the average Republican voter. I view the average Republican voter in the same way I view a victim of an abusive relationship You don't get people out of abusive relationships by giving them a different kind of abuse. You do everything you can to make them realize that they're in an abusive relationship in the first place I go to this comparison because it is exactly what the Republican party is. They are the party of abuse. The exact same tactics you find in an abusive relationship, you find in the Republican party. The gaslighting, the projection, the lies, the victim blaming, the destruction of self confidence, the reinforcement of helplessness, the insistence that their victim can't survive without them, that they're the only ones who can ever protect them. Their victims would be useless without them. The economy will wither, the frightening brown men will rape and kill everyone and install their wrong religion I conclude this post with a pair of links This one is a fuckoff gigantic timeline and compilation of Tinyhands' history and various connections through the years This one is a subreddit dedicated to the many well sourced posts of user PoppinKREAM, who has gained infamy for their diligence in supplementing and contextualizing the many articles detailing this administration's actions
The Republican Party died when they kicked out Theodore Roosevelt and nominated the business friendly Taft, who later on went to become a business friendly Supreme Court chief justice.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
Are you sure he wasn't from Germany?
We can't really get into it on this forum, iirc people who even jokingly expressed taking action years ago for another situation resulted in some sort of alphabet-soup inquiry to Garry.
This. Exactly. This is exactly why I was so supportive of John McCain when he died. We may have been polar oppisites opinion wise, but McCain was pretty much the last major Republican who knew how to act like a proper, flexible politician, a skill that none of the GOP or hell even alot of the country's politicians in general can cling onto. I'm not gonna pretend that the Democratic party doesn't have the same issue, but the republican party has that problem tenfold.
Really getting tired of these paywalled sources.
On the whole, you're right, but you should read about The Sedition Act.
What was flexible about McCain, exactly? As far as I know, he voted entirely along party lines. Action speaks louder than words.
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Because most of the time he personally agreed with the Republican platform, but not with McConnell style shitting on Senatorial procedure.
or you could you know support journalists
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