UKIP moves further right, new manifesto is anti-Islam
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It's really not that hard dude, holy shit.
Is the person there to promote hate speech/ a hateful agenda/ literal genocide?
You see the problem with this where people not using the correct pronouns for people are BY SOME PEOPLE considered as committing hate speech.
We haven't even got a handle on what hate speech is yet, another example is being critical of Israels policies to alot of people is the same as being antisemitic.
So no it's really not all that easy.
Your response is disproportionate, this actually warrants discussion.
Obviously hate speech and literal genocide are topics that aren't kosher, but a lot of these alt-right folks that are speaking on campuses aren't actually doing that. They're being significantly more coy about it than that, so the question remains: how do you draw a line that won't be abused?
Someone has to voice the dissent. You won't take away any of their current votes, but you can inspire youth by exposing them to a better way of thinking.
The abundance of the immigration topic in the media increases electoral support of anti-immigration parties (research for Belgium, the Netherlands);
The abundance of anti-immigration parties and their leaders increase their popularity (for the Netherlands) and electoral support (see here for several countries, and the for the United Kingdom);
A negative tone in reporting about immigrants increases anti-immigration attitudes (for Germany, the Netherlands and Spain);
A link in reporting about immigration with theme’s such as crime and education problems increases public concern about immigrants (see hier for the United Kingdom);
If political elites are blamed for national problems in reporting, people will be more inclined to vote for populist parties. (here).
Giving them a platform and countering their message does not work. The mere (overabundant) presence of the ideals in the media is enough to increase these attitudes. The media also has a responsibility to defend liberal democracy, imo. It should therefore be much, much more reserved in giving people with these attitudes a platform. This is not silencing. They still have the right to express their opinion, do they not?
UKIP is a meme at this point. Nigel Farage is about as distanced as he can be from UKIP. Roughly about 10 meters up Donald Trumps arse.
Like I said, I oppose the silencing of opinions on public forums. Private spaces have their own rules, I understand and agree with that. It ultimately depends where you want to de-platform them from.
I wonder if any of the deluded fuckwits who follow them know that there's no way in hell they can actually do this if they got into parliament.
UKIP are never going to break through. 2015 was their best possible chance, they had sitting MPs who had defected from other parties, they were polling in the mid to high teens, they were flush with cash, their leader was a household name, they got into the TV debates, and they poured everything into South Thanet to try and get Farage into parliament and they still couldn't do it. Now they have none of those things, their core policy is obsolete and most people couldn't name their leader
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