Trump admin sees a 7-degree F (~4 degree C) rise in global temperatures by 2100 - Polidicks

right wing years ago: climate change isn't real, nothing to worry about right wing now: we're already doomed by climate change, why do anything about it?

Because the people who actually do have the power to fix these things will never face the consequences of not doing so. They can continue to live their life of luxury for years to come, die rich and satisfied, and never be affected once by the issues that harm the ecosystem (caused by the means that secure them their comfortable lifestyle), sans by the "annoying" protesters.

Their sociopath kids won't either, maybe they'll face punishment

So is my retirement home gonna look like something out of Mad Max?

I can't help but think of this cartoon. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4254681996_27b1ed7ff0.jpg Like, okay, fine. The world is fucked and nothing we can do will fix it. Why would we still not try to make the world be the best we can, even if it's not good enough to save it?

The upper echelons of the US Government always accepted that Climate Change was a fact. They just ignored it because of corrupt bribes from corporations. IMO everyone who voted against legislation to tackle climate change in the last 20 years should get their own Nuremberg trial for crimes against humanity.

Its just a new version of the delay tactic. "It's not human caused" transforms into "Well theres nothing we can do" But are climate denialism because they ignore what the vast majority of scientists believe: Yes it is human caused, yes we can take steps to reduce its impact.

And worse still is how good the effects of climate change is going to be for right wing propaganda. There will be mass immigration and the economy will go to shit. That coupled with a voterbase that isn't known for it's factual decisions will just make everything much worse

The right wing, far- or otherwise, have every reason in the world to be against climate change. That it is not a bipartisan issue will undoubtedly be labelled one of the key courses of Everything Going To Shit, if historians are still around in the future.

100 years? Hah that's optimistic. Maybe the Mayan calendar wasn't all just a fluke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_oy9614HQ Republicans are the kids who eat the first marshmallow.

Shit like this, cements my decision to kill myself when I turn 25. 25 is a quarter of life, I've experienced my Childhood, my Teenage years, and my Adult years. What's the point of going further? Especially with this shit.

Please dont.

Nothing is stopping anyone from doing what needs to be done, you gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.

There's plenty you can do still. You can advocate for change - you can get into research to try and find ways to fix all this - you can run for Congress or local offices to help change things at a local level. It certainly sounds like you're motivated -- but there's things far more productive that leaves the rest of us in a better position to help you that you can do, but the first thing you should do here - I would advise personally - is to click through the following link and access the service you feel most comfortable with: Lifeline Australia | Get Help Now

oof just because you'll be a bit uglier doesn't make it worth ending it over. Like you can still have a good time as an older person just stop making everything revolve around sex. Is being a twink really necesary for everything you've been enjoying?

All of the recent GOP policy and talking points make sense now. They’ve given up and accepted the fate of the world and are just working to secure the country so they can continue to make money while the rest of the world falls apart. Keep refugees out, militarize the police to suppress the people when they starve, throw out labor laws to reinstate slavery under a different name. Are they really reactionary or are at least some of them engineering a way to keep control? Either way, their policies are entirely motivated by greed at the expense of the entire planet, and they likely are acutely aware that we know this.

Some smart person wanna tell me the best place to move to in order to avoid the worst of this? The Yukon or something?

What are you even on about? That's not what he was talking about AT ALL.

I...uh....never mentioned sex, nor being a twink, nor worried about being uglier. If anything, I'm already ugly so it doesn't matter. That's why I plan to live another 6 years, till I am 25. I start an online Uni bridging course in a few months so I got some plans. If my life is the same, and not worth living, 6 years from now, that is when I'll off myself. I am giving life another 6 years.

This is kinda a reason I don't want to have kids, Don't love the idea of my progeny having to deal with a world heating up and going crazy.

We've fucking lost. None of these people will be held accountable for the hundreds of millions of lives they've ruined, and retards will still vote them into office. I know all of this, but I still hate you for stating it this clearly, we've literally lost the fight for the future already because of a few dollars and gold plate toilets.

You're absolutely right, trying to vote in responsible politicians is better than nothing, but it most certainly won't save us. Which is why change has to come from the bottom up. The world's most polluting companies won't be held accountable by most governments, so it's up to us citizens to work on cutting fossil fuel use and other pollution sources out of our lifestyles. Any kg of CO2 emitted by those companies can be traced back to consumer demand. They only manage to keep that pollution up because it is profitable. So cutting back on those uses has the double effect of reducing carbon emissions and hitting them where it hurts. Besides, the more people adopt these changes, the easier it will be for others to follow suit. Low-carbon lifestyle becoming the norm will encourage them to conform, and will create demand for low carbon solutions that will prop up more environmentally friendly industries, making the switch to such lifestyles easier in the process. There are a lot of things we can do. Better to spend our energy on designing ways to make our lives as little reliant on emitting CO2 as possible than on getting frustrated about corrupt fucks in office being irresponsible.

I've got some mad images of a literal hell on earth scenario just the demons are our past and developing nations blaming the developed nations for extinction Did I fuck up really bad and die, therefore taking me to hell? It's fine, you can tell me. On a more literal note though, I never thought humanity could be this stupid but that's just hubris now cause it turns out we fucking are and I am a part of humanity so I've been rocking this boat along with the rest of you just by existing.

You're still talking about completely unrealistic expectations which still don't matter in any meaningful sense. Getting a million people to cut down on carbon emissions is a level that will be negligible to fossil fuel companies providing electricity and heat. I agree that everything is consumer demand, but at the scales we're talking, no fossil fuel company is going to be impacted because of their already MASSIVE profit margins being a percentage or two lower. My personal impact is bigger when advocating for greener packaging or renewable energy subsidies on open forums, but it's a pipe dream to think that voluntary change in grassroots levels is going to affect anything. Maybe in an ideal utopian world where everyone is a hivemind, but for every person that goes green there's an entire community of coal rolling fuckwads who are more than happy to pick up the slack so long as there's no high level intervention.

Except we're not talking about a million but hundreds of millions if not billions cutting down on their emissions if we stop sitting on our asses and get the ball rolling. Do you use the same argument when it comes to democracy? That it's useless to vote because a single vote doesn't change anything on its own? You're completely missing the point. The strength of cutting down on emissions comes through numbers, and the one way to make sure that number remains low is to do nothing because "why bother? I can't change anything on my own." Each and every grassroot movement in history would have failed with that mentality. What? Do you think many politicians are roaming this forum? What concrete impact do you think your talking on forum about possible regulations, exactly? How does that contribute to lessening climate change any more than actually doing something tangible to reduce them? What a ridiculous statement. You think those fuckwads closely monitor the amount of emissions others cut down own and burn some more to compensate? That's retarded, cutting down on your personal emissions doesn't magically cause someone else to pollute more. It simply reduces the global amount of emissions. That's another stupid excuse not to do anything. "I won't bother because people will compensate anyway." Complete falsehood. If anything, the one true force that prevents people from cutting down their emissions globally is apathy, like what you're displaying here. You claim that voting sensible people in is a battle that we lost already, yet you'd rather do nothing because you think "we won't succeed anyway"? Sounds familiar? Re-read the OP. You're reusing the same rhetoric. Except instead of saying it for the sake of protecting industrial buddies, you're doing it to excuse your own laziness. There's literally no reason not to personally cut down on your own emissions. You still haven't addressed my last post in the other thread. If you actually bother to respond, start by doing it. I don't see the point in repeating the same unchallenged arguments over and over again.

Leaked footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Qdx3Vy6vc

I don't have time atm to respond to the rest since I gotta go to work, but by "open forum" I didn't mean "internet forum"... Kinda thought that was obvious...

Still don't see how that achieves more than federating people to reduce emissions themselves. You said a couple posts above that the political battle was already lost, so why do you suddenly think we can count on that to solve the issue at hand? Why can't we do both? Why should political activism absolve anyone from engaging in personal efforts to minimize the effects of climate change?

It achieves more because: A) Restrictive regulations are more impactful on greenhouse gas emissions than the activities of small groups. The "Hundreds of millions or even billions" number you said there is an impossible pipe dream. B) It's easier for large amounts of people to be knowledgeable about the issue and proponents for it, than to completely overhaul their life to a greener way of living before it's necessary by way of those regulations. A billion people voting to heavily restrict greenhouse gas emissions industrially does more than having them be slightly more environmentally friendly and waiting for the free market to catch up.