• Passion, chaos as Kavanaugh confirmation vote nears
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It looks like Kavanaugh and Trump were sharing notes on who to blame https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1048196883464818688
https://www.axios.com/gop-nervous-ahead-of-brett-kavanaugh-vote-c8162287-2dc3-4b83-b59c-4f5cbf6fd2d2.html AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Oh im sure kavanaugh knows all about that basement love.
Awww butts.
so trump's going the "paid soros protestors" route, huh
Thats all repubs do, even the questions they asked in the hearing were trying to link ford to any major liberal figurehead.
Reading through this thread gave me a headache. It's a repeating circle of > "He shouldn't be picked because he was an asshole in the hearing" >"But where's the rape evidence???" >"Not what I said; he acted like an asshole" >"But EVIDENCE!?!?"
That's why I skipped the first four pages until something new finally happened at the end of the last page. It's just an endless cycle.
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I like how repub support increased when ford came forward. This is the party of family values supporting someone more when a woman comes out accusing said person of rape.
Obviously this is proof the assault allegations are false - everything about Kavanaugh is limp
Family values includes "boys just being boys".
Don't forget the part where it went: > "Where's the evidence??" > "Well, here is some evidence" > "There's no evidence!!!"
I’m on mobile so I can’t really quote well but I read this article yesterday and feel like it’s relevant to the bullshit floating around in this thread. https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/
I can hardly even see why this issue is so controversial. Just go through with a proper investigation. If he's innocent he's innocent. If he's not he's not. Really shouldn't be that hard. Although, at this point what most people seem to be concerned about is his disposition and bias. But lets be honest here, that's not a problem at all for those that will be confirming him.
Neither is the sexual assault, going by the responses by many republican senators.
Don't forget > "I don't care if that's considered evidence"
1) Republicans need Kavanaugh to rule on a case that would allow the president to pardon state charges 2) Trump needs Kavanaugh to help him defy a federal subpoena
Senate Advances Kavanaugh Nomination Final Vote Expected Saturda.. Live stream of the vote.
I should also add that if you do not live in Maine, do not call her. I'm sure there are plenty of people outside of the state calling her already. You're ultimately only important to her if you are a constituent.
I was under the impression that Kavanaugh won't be able to vote on that since he'll miss the statements made in the case?
It's odd because the ACLU and other groups (including a Koch thinktank) filed a brief wanting the separate sovereign doctrine overturned, the case was because a person had their sentence increased after the state and feds charged him with the same unlawful ownership of a firearm. According to Columbia Law professor Daniel Richman, state and federal charges usually have "no overlap, or almost no overlap, that would ring Fifth Amendment chimes in the absence of the dual sovereign analysis", and so the impact of overturning the separate sovereigns doctrine would be minimal. Richman is friends with James Comey and helped leak his Trump memos
Flake broke his spine again, will vote now that he has the FBI background check as cover which is exactly what I said he would do.
I think it's time to trot this post out again, for anyone still surprised that the Republican party is pulling so tightly together around Kavanaugh and pushing so hard for him I'll just put the full text here, too I'm just gonna steal this reddit post The Republican party did this They've been doing this for actual decades. From the second Roosevelt enacted the New Deal, it has become the Republican mission to never ever lose again in order to ensure their financial interests are never jeopardized and their authority is never challenged I think it's time to bring an old ghost up from its grave. Just congressional voting records on a whole host of issues involving the US political process and money in politics. Notice any recurring trends in it? You cannot look at the collective history of the Republican party and then tell me they're not somehow a major component of the god damn problem Senator Whitehouses Opening Remarks Supreme Court Hearing And the transcript helpfully provided by an industrious redditor. If you only read one part of this post, it should be this part I've been neck deep in this shit for two straight years. This man has been neck deep longer than I have been alive. This isn't just arbitrary partisan bitching. This is a genuine fucking concern of mine that comes from a place of just knowing basic fucking things about the history of the party I couldn't find a graceful segue into this article, but it is a good read nonetheless This is a party of criminals and turncoats, and the evidence is everywhere you look. It's not even an argument. I defy anyone to look at the last eighty years of the Republican party and make an even remotely convincing case why they are anything but the official party of big business and organized crime To qutoe our friend Senator Whitehouse up there: When is a pattern evidence of bias? In court, pattern is evidence of bias all the time; evidence on which juries and trial judges rely, to show discriminatory intent, to show a common scheme, to show bias. When does a pattern prove bias? I am playing a little fast and loose with his words, I must admit. But the words 'when is a pattern' resonate quite strongly with me I think t's a very good question, When is it a pattern? When am I allowed to call the Republican Party out for what they so obviously are? How much research and reading and evidence hunting do I have to do before it is fair for me to say yes, this is a party of criminals which regularly supports other criminals If this is, in fact, a legitimate and perfectly harmless political party who has never committed any wrongdoing then where is the evidence of their harmlessness? At what point is it no longer acceptable to claim that it is just the biased lies of tearful liberals to excuse literally everything these criminals do? Why is it more acceptable to pretend they have done no wrong than to hold them accountable for their wrongdoings? Why was the scope of the FBI's investigation into Kavanaugh so sharply limited? Why did the Republican Party not allow the FBI to interview key witnesses? Why were the volunteered testimonies of Kavanugh's own associates completely ignored? Why do they continue to throw so much support behind Donald "Tinyhands" Trump? Why does the party of family values, national security, financial stability, fiscal responsibility, continue to throw their weight behind a man who has repeatedly been taken to court over sexual assault, has more connections to hostile foreign influences than you can shake a stick at, and has taken the massive fortune his father left him and done the equivalent of setting it on fire with each new failed business venture? Why do they support a racist, sexist, petty criminal? And continue to support him at the expense of the entire United States government and all her peoples? Why does the Republican party so consistently vote against anything that may introduce transparency and accountability into the system? When is it a pattern? When is it no longer partisan? When is it a genuine concern that the United States is being consumed from within by what at this point can only be called a massive organized crime syndicate? When is it a pettern?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypl3Den2DBU "Is the president temperament issue as well?" You mean the president that openly mocked both a journalist and sexual assault victim this week!? Um. Yea.
more and more it seems like we've found Godel's loophole, in that the president and senate can and will someday rig the court to rubber stamp everything they do because you can't argue a scotus decision is unconstitutional, they are the ultimate deciders of it and there is no mechanism to overturn a decision by them. So if they say decided to ignore the 25th amendment, and say a president can stay for more than 2 terms they can just do that even though the text says otherwise.
It's so blood boiling to hear these hypocrites speaking in favor of Brett.
With Murkowski a no, the known votes are 48-49 against. If he is confirmed, he'll beat out Clarence Thomas to be the most contentious justice in history.
Yeah there will be a civil war if that happens, the amendment's text is completely uninterpretable like that. Good going on betting that Republicans will be evil and willing to destroy anything for power, woop de do.
Trump-Republicans circle the wagons anytime one of "their kind" is attacked by "you people". It's tribalism at its most toxic and damaging, mainly because it concerns everything Congress does these days, including deciding who gets a seat on the most powerful court in the country. They're fucking snowflakes down to the very last. If you took every elected Republican in Congress, put them on a rocket ship, and fired them into the sun, you know what you'd get? A good start.
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