• Passion, chaos as Kavanaugh confirmation vote nears
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I just have a really bad feeling the next 10 years are going to go very poorly. It was always just jokes before but now I'm seriously considering alternatives to living here. California is relatively sane and the govt here does it's best to counter trump admin idiocy, but on the other side, they refuse to do anything for the homeless and housing and cost of living are unbelievable and I can't afford that shit forever
with thunderous applause?
Benghazi was investigated like eight times, I'm sure Democrats will have a lot to do if they get the gavel.
More like with ‘deep concern’ and ‘no evidence’.
United States democracy died right before Obama was elected and the Republicans met and decided their stance of "no at all costs". From an excerpt from the book "The New New Deal", where Joe Biden recalls: “I spoke to seven different Republican Senators, who said, `Joe, I’m not going to be able to help you on anything,’ he recalls. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was: `For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’” Biden says. and an aide of McConnell's “People were pretty demoralized, and there were two totally opposite thoughts on how to approach the situation,” a McConnell aide recalls. “One was, `we don't like the president, we ought to pop him early.’ The other was, `he’s really popular, we should work with him, because that’s what people want us to do.’ The boss’s take was: Neither." McConnell realized that it would be much easier to fight Obama if Republicans first made a public show of wanting to work with him. I can bet that, if it really happened, Ryan's comment of "This is how we know we’re a real family here" is rooted in this. They seek power for themselves, and use various kinds of suggestion to say those who think differently than them stand in the way of great things. I imagine when everything comes undone (as all things do) the political backstabbing will be enormous.
Guilty until proven innocent ?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/05/elizabeth-warrens-new-tantalizing-claim-about-kavanaugh-shows-what-utter-madness-this-is/?tid=pm_pop https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1047996083647987712 Warren's anger is so strong it's making the post shake. Good to know that Republicans are bullshitting and ignoring reality to ram their preferred man through as always.
I blame Grover Norquist personally
https://twitter.com/Migra1985/status/1048005531548483585
make America sane again. Now that's some tyrannical Russian-type style bullshit, right there.
I mean normalcy and fear are the ways Republicans get votes, either vote R if the economy is good or if the Democrats will take your guns.
Collins is extolling Kavanaugh's virtues. Doesn't sound good.
Yeah, I have a feeling she's going to vote yes.
There's already 1.8 mil ready for her 2020 opponent if she votes yes.
As it turns out, Senate Republicans are vapid, hollow garbage. This is something I didn't know already and am very surprised to learn.
It's really a shame that politicians have such long tenures to do this horseshit. They should fear every year that they aren't doing what their constituents want instead of their donor's bribes.
I hate the smug little smile on her face
Even if Collins votes no Mike Pence will break the tie. Thank Joe Manchin for being the one Democrat voting yes.
The Senate is supposed to be slow and collegial, but like what Gingrich did to the House, the turtle cunt did to the Senate. The turtle cunt has the highest disapproval of any senator and revels in the fact people hate him.
Collins is a bribe taking coward.
I hope Brett Kavanaugh is impeached and disbarred, and charged with treason if he lets Trump be a king. I know that's not how the treason law works
https://i.imgur.com/P4NjT9y.png This jumped about 20k from the last time I refreshed it, by the way, which was about 5-8 minutes ago. I fully expect it to jump up to $2,500,000+ by this weekend if the crowdpac gets a boost in social media.
I keep thinking that those claiming presumption of innocence is inherent and core to America's beliefs have never been pulled over by the police. Personally I'll never forget buying my first car, being pulled over without having committed a crime, having the drug dogs show up without being given a reason as to why, and then having my brand new (used) car searched for literally no reason because the dog triggered a hit somehow. I know it's just an anecdote but this kind of thing is so commonplace that I just find it hilarious that we're pretending that presumption of innocence something the average American experiences. I'm not saying it shouldn't be, but that's not really the world most of us live in.
Republican (and a lot of Democrat) politicians live in a different reality, not much better then nobility.
Something just isn't adding up. Collins said in Kavanaugh had no history of drunken belligerence, but he was provably questioned by police when he started a bar fight? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/unredacted-police-report-confirms-kavanaugh-friend-was-arrested-following-1985-bar-fight His roomate also claimed he was drunk and belligerent? I was Brett Kavanaugh’s college roommate. He lied under oath. I don't know much about the fbi investigation since it wasn't released, but they said most of them don't recall even being there at the party. Weren't there like ten other people who claimed that they did know what happened at the party? Were they excluded? It just feels like I'm seeing 2 different realities here.
No this is what Plato warned us about in any democratic system, demagogues take advantage of the fact that even idiots have a voice and use those idiots to their advantage. Athens suffered greatly at the hands of demagogues who pulled them into wars they had no business being in. A good metric to go by if you're a republic is how many demagogues get elected into office because a good republic will have extensive vetting processes and a bad one won't because they're inevitably going to get into office if your system relies on everyone having a say in the matter. The problem in the current government is that what should be happening is two sides should be locked in a eternal jockeying for power and restraining each other at any opportunity but the chances of one side getting a majority in all 3 branches is like once in a total planet alignment but it's still there. What actually has happened is the most malignant side has actually won but is unsure of what to do with its victory and is doubting that the world it would bring is a good one and to some extent is pondering if it's worth having its people being publicly disgraced everywhere they go.
I'm getting confused my self. So in this vote to go to the floor. More people voted yes? And the 3 Republicans that we were hoping for to say No said yes?
It's not that confusing. 50R + 1D (manchin) voted yes. 48D and 1R (murkowski) voted no. For a total of 51-49. And since mcconnell nuked the 60 vote nomination threshold they don't need 60 votes, they needed 51.
No I meant like if the vote today was just to get the vote to the floor for tomorrow. But signs are pointing to him being confirmed tomorrow?
Another fucking sexual predator is going to be elected to a lifetime appointment ruling on the rights of women. I'm not encouraging violence, but don't be fucking surprised.
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