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The police does not wish you good. The police is the direct descendent of the feudal knights, keeping the populace compliant to ensure that the workforce remain exploitable. As a public service, the police is less like rescue services such as the firemen and the postman and more like the repo guy. They are selected on a basis of obedience over wits to ensure that they will comply with orders and never question anything they're tasked to do, and rationalize hurting innocent people in the process. When a strike happens and the police are sent to dispatch protesters, that's exactly what goes on. The pigs will put their livelihoods in the way of class struggle because they're too thick to see beyond their paycheck. I do not expect this argument to hit home with you for having already interacted with you in threads. Because you're still stuck in the cave thinking shit like BLM breaking glass showcases hurts anyone. This is why I think you can only miss my point. A glass showcase is a spectacular device invented to make you desire shit you do not need. Breaking a glass showcase actually produces more value than its everyday use, believe it or not. To put commodities in a window for strictly no one to enjoy isn't so different on principle than leaving condos uninhabited. This might seem like an unremarkable thing for me to nitpick from your posting history at first, but it shows the radical ideological gap between the two of us. Maybe your first step to understanding why I firmly believe that all cops are bastards.
Where the fuck did I say that BLM protesters breaking glass hurts people lmao dude you're on some fuckin shit Most police are happy to serve the public, and the reason you don't hear about them is because they're doing their jobs. You're attributing some nonsense archetypal bullshit that cops are "descendants of feudal knights" instead of being normal, everyday people like you and me. Whatever angst you have against your own police is fine, but you don't live in the US and therefore you can't speak on experience for our police. That being said, my experience with cops has been a mix. I almost got arrested one time because one cop thought I stole a phone from a classmate in high school and I would have if her partner didn't take my argument seriously and look into my side. She flat-out said in my face "I think we should just arrest you right now, honestly" and that scared the shit out of me. Despite that scaring me, I didn't hold a grudge against all cops. Why? Because it's common sense that like with all people, you'll have to directly interact with the individual in order to discern how good of a person they are. Obviously, you can judge based on their actions you hear on the news, and that's fine. But in either way, there's no rational or logical way you can proclaim all cops are bastards. When you proclaim an absolute like that, you have to have some really fucking solid proof, otherwise you're just being dumb. When you say all cops are bastards, you really mean it, and to bring up a specific example, you think this man is a bastard. I'd really like to see you do the mental gymnastics needed to call this guy a bastard, because he's done more for his community than most can say.
If there is no justice, then the act of peacekeeping is merely coercitive. If you enforce order for its own sake where there is no social peace then you are stifling the problems of the world so that none may ever hope to fix them - that's being a bastard in my book. In these days of social turmoil the police have decided to take side with the wealthy in crushing the miserable underfoot. The footage exists - they have been beating us over the heads for exercising our right to protest, arresting minorities over fantasy crimes, assisting the capitalist class in stiffling dissent all around the world and murdering black people for sport. Dakota XL pipeline, Occupy WS, Black Lives Matter, Justice pour Adama. You would have to be very privileged to ignore this behavior, because it happens everywhere and is part of the cop zeitgeist. You will recognize it from what I've told you if you ever run into it. All this lackeying will be held against them, the only good cop now is a cop who relinquishes the uniform.
is this what being ~woke™~ is like?
You're making absolute claims without any proof. That's my problem with your logic. You're claiming that there is absolutely no justice because of a set of issues, therefore it is absolute that all cops are operating in a coercive way. And I know you're not going to care about Tommy Norman, because it's clear you're so into your own delusion that you'll forsake any rational thought and ignore any example of a good cop. It's clear that you think you're some kind of revolutionary champion of justice. You're truly continuing yawmwen's legacy, so thank you for your service.
Ok idiot. Keep making this about my ego and disregarding reasons why cop hatred is so widespread. I don’t get a soros check for every time I explain these simple concepts to a liberal so I’ll leave you be. Maybe try understanding that none of us chose to be born under capitalism and how the enforcement of its rule can be a violent sight to behold with averse effects on some of the individuals affected.
It's painfully apparent that you're operating from your ego. How else could such a delusional conceit take hold and forsake any and all rationality? You believe all cops are evil, therefore you condemn them and that makes you feel like you're the good guy. That's textbook insanity right there.
I had to do a double-take to make sure that yawmen didn't return (and apparently move to France). Haven't seen a take on this forum that hot and absurd in years now. Maybe if we let him keep going he'll say that molotovs don't hurt cops?
Yes, medicalize my experience some more. I’m telling you my experience with cop is all about seeing them violently crack down on peaceful protesters and you’re still asking for justification. The fact that cops are ready to put their brawns to defending a morally bankrupt system in grey legality areas is my case. I don’t have to say shit else. There’s corps solidarity around such behavior too. Literally all of the cops support the destruction of our social rights by virtue of violently cracking down on labor protests. If cops were not bastards they would stop contributing to a lower standard of living for everyone else. No one is forcing them to take the nightstick to the skull of poor people who just want better life. But I’m sure if you keep calling me mentally deficient or a flat-earther long enough it’s going to make your case for all cops not being bastards any time soon. Keep digging.
you're burying yourself so deep, even Triple H would be impressed
For one with so much contempt it's truly a wonder how you operate in public. I bet you tip over every trash can you see to own the capitalists.
Also, why the fuck are you painting french cops as bastard? Seriously, most of your arguments aren't applicable here. Except if you are watching BFM TV non-stop and trusting what media want you to believe When police forces can't even do their job properly in sensitive area without getting tossed Molotov cocktails, rocks and other dangerous objects, how can you tell that they are all mighty? How about those cops that get killed by fanatics like you who think that they "are pigs"? Also, apparently, destroying the property of someone is not a crime, because you said so. BLM aren't above the law. No one is. Hey, how about some personal stories now! Those pigs, saving me from being beaten up by some neo-nazis because I looked like "a fag"! Truly the worst scum, those cops, am I right? But noooo, all cops bad because the TV say so 10/10 you made me mad
You've built a strawman upside down. I don't even own or watch a TV. No cops have been killed by molotov cocktails in France. To invent or exaggerate incidents to make a point is just sad. To suggest that any popular media, let alone information continue has an anti-cop bias is just making shit up. I could mention how cops now disproportionately kill and threaten using their arms nos that they get to keep them off-duty, but my point is that they behave badly while on duty. Mes condoléances aux familles des vitrines ;) Also, I'm glad you were saved by the police doing their actual fucking job. Not all police prefectures have a track record of doing even the bare minimum, and most certainly do have a story of letting facists and racists off the hook or otherwise protecting them: A Strasbourg, «courez bande de gauchistes sinon on vous bute» A Marseille, affrontements entre royalistes et antifas Un policier "ostracisé" par sa hiérarchie après avoir dénoncé du.. I could cherrypick all day and ignore your firsthand experience, but I'm happy you managed to get out of this sticky situation. Of course for every racist incident enabled by the police there's ten facists arrested for doing illegal things, and that's great. If I don't have good firsthand experience with the police despite my clean criminal record and law-abiding lifestyle, that doesn't mean I want to straight up abolish it before we come up with something else. I think we should all strive for a better life and saner law enforcement. If you really do like the police then you should see criticism of their work as something healthy. For the time being I think they're all detestable and should drop the attitude if they can't take the hate. Perhaps they should teach respect in police school.
Wow it's almost like the jackbooted thugs don't like Democrats or something
Scarabix you should link to someone else explaining it, video is more convincing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5xnEL8mYg
Here's someone almost killed by a Molotov cocktail in Paris, because some Black Blocks wanted a fight in an otherwise peaceful protest : Policier brûlé au cocktail Molotov Nobody died, but it could have happened Once again, property damage is a crime. Would you enjoy getting your car destroyed? Those innocent people sure do enjoy having to repair, and clean up their shop. Not being able to work will show them that the cause is right, huh? Send me French cops killing innocent peoples. With the intent to harm and not accidents. With the cops having no repercussions whatsoever. Especially since shooting someone in self-defence against someone trying to kill you, will bring you to court. In 2016, 3446 case of abuse has been recorded, with only 14,5 % of them involving violence. There's is 150 000 active officers in France. That's about 500 case of actual violence against citizens. However, no distinction is done in the study regarding if it was in a protest, or in the everyday life. There's 13% of cases that only involve rude response, or a lack of respect from cops, it's bad but it's not really the worst thing ever. So yeah, it's 3446 instance too much. But there's interventions everyday, protests every months, drug raids, etc... You can't expect everyone to be perfect, but you can't say that every single 150 000 peoples working as cops are scum. Since it's evidently false and a gross generalisation due to your experiences. Trying to stop a huge fight between anti-fascist and royalists to avoid unnecessary casualty is apparently being pro-facist. However the rest of the links are bad, I admit In the end, it's easy to paint people in a bad light by looking for the worst. And having bad experience can skew your perception a bit. Your mentality is what get people killed. Cops are humans, with families and difficulties, not faceless monsters out for blood.
Google Adama Traoré. Innocent man arrested and killed in custody in Beaumont-sur-Oise. Six official versions exhausted so far and every time a new fabricated expertise from the morgue to disculpate the police. The current version is that he died of exhaustion as a healthy adult after running two miles at below-walking speed to escape arrest. His family attempted to have his murder recognized by the authorities and now all of his brothers sit in prison on fabricated charges. Every police officer has been complacent in this matter. If we're going to ignore those raped and crippled by the police, here are some notable names of people murdered in cold blood by the police and who will never see justice Lamine Dieng Zyed & Bouna Rémi Fraisse Curtis the biker Larami & Mushin These are just off the dome. You can find many more by googling «urgence notre police assassine». Interestingly you'll find that they all have some post-mortem reputation from police painting them as delinquants so as to justify their murders, and they get platforms to do so in the media all the time. I would not know about any of this if I hadn't had the chance to meet the families of victims who fight tooth and nail for truth and justice. Police violence has an annual observable death toll of about 15 people a year in France (18 known deaths in 2017), so the notion that my mentality is what gets people killed is an exact inversion of reality and you should be ashamed of putting shit like this out there. Shame on you. As for glass showcase destruction hurting anyone, in the same way as destroying my hypothetical car, I won't honor this jab with an answer. Google «utilitarisme» &«destruction créatrice». À vous les familles des vitrines.
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