Far-right "Proud Boys" filmed beating protesters in New York
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If a bunch of alt-right/far-right extremists go around and try to fuck shit up in the name of a corrupted administration thats compromised by Russia.
https://youtu.be/8wXRvvGr8Ug?list=PLT_n1uDi6y9A3UbiU08QYZLjX4PJMQUm1
Get your animals masks and count your 50 blessings.
Antifa are made up of literal communists and therefore want to do the same. Does it really matter if the guy putting a bullet in your head is doing it because of your race or because of your belief?
Yes.
Because you can't change your race, but you can stop being a fascist.
So when "Antifa" comes for you, all you have to do is stop being a hateful cunt and they will leave you alone.
But when the fascists come for you, there is nothing you can do to stop them from hating you because they hate you for who you are and there is nothing you can do to change that.
There is an explanation, but it just makes it even dumber
We watch Miles McInnes at a Bernie Sanders rally and Gavin tries to dance like Hillary with a buttplug up his ass.
Fucking arrest gavin mcinnes.
Why aren't the police doing their job?
Glad I don't like in the USA coz it's going to shit there. Like the UK has some self destructive bullshit but the USA has legit got facism
Yeah it's pretty weird. I see people defend groups like this as an unfortunate but necessary reaction to groups like Antifa but strangely I don't remember hearing about Antifa before very recently. It's almost like Antifa is itself a reaction to growing nationalist and facist sentiment in the US and other western liberal democracies.
....YEAAAAAAp. IDK what I expected.. Thanks, though.
It might be a tactic used by a minority to aggro police (or pigs as some those types of people call them) into using absurd force against all the protesters, making police look bad.
Anyone can be an antifacist. Anyone who counterprotests facists is an antifacist. The most milquetoast freemarket centrist neoliberal using their voice to denounce facism is antifacist in doing so and remains so for the whole duration of their opposing facism.
You should question your praxis if communists do a better job at protecting liberal democracy than you do. You should question the legitimacy of your police force when they protect facists. If your local antifacist action is doing their job properly then you have no crimethought to worry about unless you are a facist public figure.
You should also stop making shit up like antifa is out there shooting people. We just now had a thread about proud boys attempting terrorist attacks with sniper rifles and being let off the hook by the police. You are in no place to accuse anyone of gaslighting.
The problem with Antifa is that when the average working class person who has to struggle to get by everyday see people identifying as Antifa wrecking storefronts and generally just cause havok for average working class people then they will in turn be put of by the idea of them. Even if it's not a proper organisation that doesn't have any form of leadership they still have an emblem which for a lot of people equates to being a proper organization. One of the biggest problems with the rise of the alt-right is how they attract poorer working class people who feel shunned by society and when you also have Antifa causing trouble for these people on top of being ignored by politicians in general it's very easy for people in shitty situations to draw themselves towards extremes.
The police are doing exactly their job.
1. Antifa are made up of many different types of people.
2. Unlike Fascism, murdering political opponents is not an inherent trait of Communism.
You can't when what is determined to be a fascist is decided by a group of violent communists. Do you actually know what fascism is? I know you may be surprised but a person can be racist and not fascist and a person can be fascist but not racist (not that I agree with either) and many people are labeled Fascist simply by not being as extremist as they are.
What is violent revolution if a social revolution fails then?
Do you like hit your political opponents and landowners with pillows or something?
One of the major disagreements between communists and fascists have when it comes to revolution is that communists believe nonviolent social revolution is possible, fascists don't.
Proud boys deserve to get bricks thrown at them, let them know they are not welcome in civil society.
Take your own advise. There were more Communist nations than the ones people love to constantly harp on about.
your thinly-veiled attempt to back up a bigot like shapiro and separate yourself from the far-right is boring
No, politicians are dumb-asses that think they deserve to be in charge.
I did. You saying there were more Communist nations doesn't change the facts. Even Marx himself said violent revolution was required for communism to take hold and it has. Can you name me one long standing communist country where the murder or imprisonment of political rivals wasn't the case?
"...Facism is closer to socialism than it is capitalism"
that's all I needed to hear
Do you actually know there is a reason German Fascism was called "national socialism" right? Both German Fascism (and Fascism in general) and socialism involve government control of private business because the government thinks it knows how to best handle those businesses. Hitler himself even said "You can't be socialist and not be anti Jew". How can you be so smug yet so uneducated? Have you not taken high school political science yet?
Same reason it's DPRK
Nope, Hitler considered himself a socialist and his practices were in fact socialist in nature. He deprivitized private businesses as his main economic policy. Hitler however took socialism to not just the economic but ethno racial level and decided that even race and genetics should be deprivatized and controlled by the state. Actually learn about history. I am blown away by the amount of self identified "socialists" actually know nothing about what socialism is and just as amazing are the amount of "anti-Fascists" who don't even know what Fascism is.
Can you literally explain to me what makes Socialism better than Fascism? Go ahead, tell me and before you bring up genocide realize that technically racism and Fascism aren't necessarily tied together since Fascism is mainly an economic philosophy.
Wrong again, fuck-boi.
"a political and economic theory of social organization that
advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange
should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
Hitler "de-privatized" assets by seizing them for the State, ie government, not the people. The Nazi party wasn't people-governed, they were goose-stepping thugs that took power in a coup and then seized everything for themselves under the guise of being "in the best interests of the people".
My point was meant to show the flaw of your claim. Whether they were long standing or not, the existence of even one peaceful Communist nation process that authoritarianism isn't an inherent trait of Communism.
Besides, it's hard to survive as a peaceful Communist country when the US keeps funding and supporting the violent overthrow of them.
Also "Fascism us closer to Socialism than it is Capitalism"? What. Do you even know what Socialism is? Marx's talks about revolution we're also more about how the workers would get fed up with how they were treated and would revolt and less about him specifically advocating for violent overthrow.
Are you serious right now? Have you drunk the cool aid this much? You realize Socialism does the exact same thing right? By "The People" they mean the state. That is literally how every socialist country has done it in practice. Look at Venezuela, who do you think took control of the private businesses after it went full socialist? "The People" or The state?
If "The State" is run by "the people", then yes, it's socialism. But when "The State" consists of "The Cool Kids Club That You're Not Invited To, Oh And We Gas Children Just 'Cause LOL" running things, that's fascism/dictatorship, not socialism.
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