Report: Mueller is Ready to Deliver his Key Findings - Polidicks

Perhaps he's delaying until after because he knows Republicans will do nothing now.

I would argue that announcing all of this right now to begin with is actually a great way to get people to not vote out of suspicion. How do I know my choice is legitimate if the results aren't going to be released until later?

As much as I'm anxious to see the results I think announcing everything after the election is the right move given the current political atmosphere. Republicans have been trying to paint this investigation as an attempted coup since day one. Even if the case were airtight in its legitimacy this perceived attempt to influence voters would be taken as proof positive of this delusion and invite a disproportionate reaction. The administration could feasibly use it as grounds to suspend elections, the alt-right could use it as justification to "defend their nation" and get violent, and the entire time the finger of blame will be pointed squarely at the left for attempting to overthrow the government. Whatever truth the investigation has would be lost in the squalor. Avoiding any semblance of impropriety is going to be key in combating the misinformation campaign and de-legitimizing retaliation from the right.

I have a feeling it will amount to nothing And we'll get another "Horseface" tweet and maybe a firing/retirement.

As opposed to Republicans magically growing a sense of humanity after the midterms?

Key note: What ZomgNoWai is not saying is "if only Republicans would look past political parties!" Partisanship is an everyone problem.

What happened to you BDA? Your posts used to always get me pumped up and ready to save democracy.

Same, but after seeing Brett Kavanaugh getting confirmed, I don’t think anyone is in high spirits anymore. The damage had been done—the sanctity of SCOTUS had be compromised and rape culture got a serious win.

I think BDA is only being half pessimistic, half realistic. There's no denying that the Supreme Court has been severely compromised by the GOP. They've abused a system whose 'rules' are so outdated and fundamentally archaic to wrestle complete control over it. They've played the long con by taking advantage of millions of Americans in states with a dead or dying industrial sector and more widespread poverty than the other half of the country. They took advantage of people who have struggled to stay afloat by tricking them into thinking that all of their problems was the result of the Democrats trying to keep them poor. 60+ years of what is essentially propaganda have taken their toll and now we have this massive divide between the major political parties and those they represent. This country is massive and insanely diverse, as such it's nearly impossible to push new laws and regulations that won't end up effecting someone negatively. Because of this Democrats and Republicans despise one another meaning they're unwilling to compromise on anything, and instead treat the higher positions of government as "you're either with us or against us". I feel that Trump is essentially the breaking point here. He's the only president I can think of who will go on record of saying that the other party are criminals or terrorists. The Republicans saw his inauguration as a major victory over the liberal fucks who have kept them down for so long, and now they're so blinded with pride that they'll stop at nothing to ensure they retain complete control no matter what. I know a lot of this is either generalization or extreme dramatism, but it truly feels like this country will never see eye to eye.

This is why we needed Rank Choice voting 30+ years ago

I hope you're pumped enough to actually do something about it, because you've only got about three weeks left until there's nothing left to save. Maybe I'm being pessimistic (I hope I am), but the Republican party as an institution has fully and completely abandoned any and all sense of constitutional duty, responsibility, or integrity. They have committed themselves to the singular purpose of winning at any cost. Consider the news of the last two days. A US resident and journalist for the Washington Post was kidnapped by the Saudi Arabian government, and fucking brutally murdered. They dismembered him with a saw while he was still alive, and played music to drown out his screams. This isn't conjecture. The Turkish government have video and audio proof of what happened, and sent this to US officials while we were all still wondering why this journalist had seemingly disappeared. Trump knew what happened to this man before the public did, and lied about it. He knew who was responsible, and lied about. Now that everybody else know, he's still lying about it. What was this man's crime? Why was he kidnapped, tortured, murdered, and mutilated? He was critical of huge amounts of shady money moving between Saudi Arabia and Donald Trump's private businesses. He was murdered for investigating the relationship between the Trump family and the Saudi royal family. Now Trump is using his power as the president, with the help of his dedicated state propaganda outlet at Fox News, to spread lies and misinformation about this. He's using his power to attempt to cover up the fact that a US resident and journalist was murdered in the most horrific way imaginable for investigating crimes and corruption of the Trump Family. Even worse: all evidence suggests that US intelligence services (and, by extension, Trump) were aware of the plot to murder this US resident beforehand, and did nothing to warn him or stop it. If the GOP has so fully abdicated their essential responsibilities to our our nation, our people, and our constitution, that they will allow a President who is personally complicit in the horrific kidnapping, torture, mutilation, and murder of an American Journalist whose only crime was investigating that President's corruption to continue sitting in the oval office, then we're lost. It's done. The only chance whatsoever of saving what's left of our democracy rests not just on winning back control of a single house of government, but in purging from office every single politician who has enabled Trump's corruption, crimes, brutality, and betrayals of our people. Meanwhile, GOP is unabashedly rigging the system in their favor in every possible sense to ensure that doesn't happen. So, you want to get pumped up? Know this: any chance at all of preventing our nation from become an openly corrupt authoritarian regime along the likes of Putin, Kim Jong Il, Duterte, King Abdullah, Hu Jintao, and so on rests on a single thing: voting in numbers too large to manipulate. We can't just swing a narrow margin in the house, we need to fully wrest control of both chambers of Congress, pull Trump's SCOTUS nominees down and replace them with people who give a single shit about constitutional responsibility, redraw the nation's heavily gerrymandered voting districts, eliminate or heavily overhaul the Electoral College to ensure that each person's vote is equal in power to any other's, and much more. So go march. Protest loudly. Make your outrage heard. And fucking VOTE. By any means necessary: vote. Convince every single person you know to do the same. Rent a fucking van and drive around giving people rides to polling stations. Do whatever you have to. Because this isn't a normal election. This isn't a normal government. This isn't politics as usual. This is the final, desperate breath of American democracy.

i'd be pissed if i had to walk into a wall for a picture, too

My thoughts are Trump will fire rosenstein after the election. The senate remains in gop hands and most of the flakes have retired and been replaced by hardliners. Next guy will close or severely restrict the investigation, the WH sits on the first report. The dems retake the house, publish the report, begin their own investigation in ernest and the country devolves further into a partisan squabble as Trump calls the entire house illegitimate for the next 2 years going into 2020 where they have a chance to take back the house.

Sounds like a repeat of Benghazi. Time is apparently cyclic.

Except Fox News's absurd "Benghazi" conspiracy was almost entirely sourced from a man who was literally charged with, put on trial for, and sent to prison on Fraud for lying about being a super secret insider of major covert intelligence agencies -- which was his entire basis for claiming to have proof of a conspiracy. This man literally fuckin' ran the commission to take down Hillary Clinton, and was on Fox News on a near daily basis professing his insider knowledge and decades of James Bondian Spycraft knowledge that enabled him to learn these wicked secrets. Fox News never once addressed the fact he was a fraud and never once ran a story acknowledging that Benghazi had originated from a fraud. Newsflash: Benghazi was investigated for 7+ years, and the only charges filed on anything relating to in any fashion were against against the Actual Fraudster who perpetuated the whole fuckin' mess to begin with. Basically: The Fox News Benghazi Bullshit you've been swallowing for the last decade is bunk. Strictly bunk. Benghazi was not a result of a criminal conspiracy among nasty ol' Democrats. The worst that could be said is that there is a possibility it could have been stopped with greater vigilance, but the same is true of almost every major tragedy like this. 9/11 could have been stopped. Is George Bush criminally liable for that? Basically Pt II: take this "Whataboutist" bullshit elsewhere. You don't know what you're talking about. You've never known what you're talking about. At this rate, you probably never will know what you're talking about. You're an embarrassment not just to yourself, but to the entirety of "Fox Nation."

Learn something new every day. But I didn't give two shits about Benghazi six years ago aside from something that people seemed to be in an undue fuss over. You really need to calm down about this stuff. Like I'm going to play devils advocate here but you paint a picture constantly as if Trump is going to declare martial law tomorrow with his army of brainwashed alt-right trumpites who are avid viewers of fox news (Do I even get Fox on sling? I don't think I get fox or CNN on sling - thank god) and that nobody is safe. Like, no, and the amount of volume this stuff gets has turned people off from giving a shit about the terrible crimes against humanity Trump is doing. People like myself, which is a shame because I would like the crimes from all parties - democrat, republican, everything in between - exposed and all parties brought to justice. I touch about this before and I get told that I'm a brainwashed alt-righter but it's impossibly hard to be objective about the news when you know in the back of your head that journalists (and this is something that 'Fox nation' does too, they don't get a free pass and god knows why I would give them one too) intentionally sensationalize news for clicks, attention and revenue. They aren't heroes, they're muckrakers. Walk outside and breathe the air. If he's guilty of crimes then yeah he should be punished for them, but very little of this shit effects things on a day by day basis. If you're wondering why people don't seem too plussed about the current crimes against humanity Trump is doing, this is why. Because at some point, it just becomes noise.

The President of the United States is lying about a US journalist being kidnapped, tortured, and mutilated with a saw while still living, before bleeding out on the floor of a supposedly friendly consulate, in order to protect illegal dark money funneling through his private businesses from the very people who ordered him murdered, so I'll kindly invite you to go fuck yourself for telling me to "calm down," you gaslighting little dork.

Sure, and Obama lied about that inflammatory video causing the Benghazi attack, which included the murder of our own US ambassador, after the admin knew otherwise. (I'm not some conspiracist about the whole thing, but this one fact is clear and undeniable.) The US government knew by Sept. 15th that there were no protests in Benghazi that started this random attack. (Checking Patricia Smith's claims about Clinton and Benghazi | Po..) Yet different claims were clearly made after that date. On Sept. 16th by Susan Rice, based on a CIA memo provided to her: "Based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy—sparked by this hateful video." On Sept. 20th by Obama in an interview on Univision: "What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests." Both are cited on the Wikipedia page with direct sources. So what am I supposed to conclude? On one hand, the government knew that these video inspired protests weren't the cause of the attack, but on the other hand, Obama himself was claiming that very fact to be true. Let me note that none of this excuses Trump's lying, which I agree that he is doing. What it does do is provide some context to your claims about it being indicative of "third-world tinpot dictators." No, it's indicative of world politics.

4 words in and you're already doing whataboutism

It's almost like the post exists as a whole and not as 4 word increments. There's a reason I, in bold, made sure that it was clearly that I'm not attempting to excuse Trump's lying.

How else is he supposed to pose an argument!?

I honestly don't think you know what "whataboutism" means. Here, let me give you a definition from Wikipedia: "Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument" What hypocrisy did I accuse BDA of? (The answer is that I didn't because I wasn't calling him out for justifying Obama. I was using that as an example to provide evidence for my claim that lying about world politics is a normal occurrence.)

in regards to your last paragraph. Yes, there were dark times in US history. We had Slavery legalized for gods sake, and how much more. he point is just because things were bad back then doeesnt give us an excuse to go back to that time. Progress should go froward, perhaps cautiously, but always forward. You cannot blame people for being upset when we do a 180 and start bringing back what we fought so hard against already.

Like I said, I'm all for criticizing things for what they are. Call out the lies. Try to push the country in a better direction. Etc. But that is a very different thing than saying democracy is dead, we're under a dictator, etc. I don't know about you, but I'm going to be voting in a free election in under a month. In that election, the guy being called a dictator is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives. The only thing stopping that is a lack of votes. That doesn't sound like a dictatorship to me. That sounds like a democracy that can bounce back, just like it always has.

Whataboutism is in its core about accusing someone of hypocrisy, as the definition points out. I think you'll have a hard time convincing us that this wasn't a case of it.

I explicitly stated the conclusion of my argument in the damn post. Here, let me quote myself: "What it does do is provide some context to your claims about it being indicative of "third-world tinpot dictators." No, it's indicative of world politics, and has been for literally centuries."

Nobody is claiming the US is a dictatorship - But it's becoming increasingly clear that the current government is trying to steer the country in a direction vaguely towards it. Democracy is at risk in the US. Be sure to help with doing something about it, because I can't.

According to BDA, "This is the final, desperate breath of American democracy." He literally thinks that democracy is dead if the democrats don't take the House.

i think it should take barely a pinch of brainpower to realize BDA isn't meaning it'll happen overnight. He means we're on the road of democracy going to shit if the GOP remains in control.

I'm not as informed as BDA, and I'm not as involved in this as BDA. My words aren't gonna be as strong, obviously. But there's really no point in arguing the semantics. The US definitely needs to get back on track, or it really could become dangerous.