600,000 march in London for People's Vote on final Brexit deal
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45925542
Something tells me this is one of those things where everything and everyone says no, nobody wants it and knows how much they've all fucked up, but in the end, one huge fucking idiot will still go "I'm still gonna go with yes guys"
But brexit won suck it up
clearly haters of democracy
"We will brexit with the best of deals!"
*malta vetos the deal*
"We will brexit with totally nothing!"
Why are pro-brexit people so afraid of another referendum? If they think Brexit is still great they shouldn't be afraid of people speaking their mind, right?
No takebacks.
because nobody in their right mind would vote in favour of it twice
Brexit was a perfect example of why direct democracy doesn't work. Letting the average person make decisions on complicated matters like the EU is a fucking terrible idea. Hopefully no politician makes that mistake again but I'm probably being a bit optimistic there.
because the outcome of it is obvious
I swear Brexit is a Russian op or something. It just screams "foreign interference". I coulda swore some of the Russian bots were also sharing Brexit stuff.
They certainly helped it along with social media bots, but it's best not avoid responsibility like that. British politicians and many, many British people pushed for it just as much. As much as I'm sure we'd all like to blame it on interference it had a whole lot more to do with working class levels of xenophobia instead, a bigger problem in my opinion.
Well, direct democracy through referendums isn't a bad idea, necessarily. It can help people have more trust in politics because they feel they're being listened to iirc. The topics of referendums just have to be picked very carefully, and I think a country also needs to build up experience with them. In Switzerland and Ireland referendums are very common and are used quite well afaik.
I personally think the most ideal implementation of referendums would be corrective referendums. If a shitty law is passed, a referendum could be held to stop it. It's kind of like an addition to representative democracy that makes it more representative.
To a degree, it was. Russia's online propaganda machine has been a stalwart supporter and advertiser for Brexit, and several key figures and groups in the leave campaign had Russian backing and funding.
Also while not necessarily related to Russia, the leave campaign's numerous criminal and misinformative acts are very similar to how Russian ops work.
Serious question, why the fuck did anybody vote for Brexit in the first place?
Well I mean brexiteers would argue that this was a "corrective referendum" and look where it got us. I honestly don't think complicated economic unions are within the average persons understanding at all.
Alternative headline, 4% of Remain Voters protest in the streets of London?.
Where is comrade boilrig?
For London I expected more of a turn out, but I guess not everyone is happy and dandy with attempting to push another referendum because the first time the people 'voted wrong'.
They would be wrong though. A binding corrective referendum would work something like this: a law is passed through all the houses it has to, within x weeks one has to collect x amount of signatures for a referendum against this law. X amount of signatures is collected, a referendum is held. If 'no' wins the law is null, if 'yes' wins the law comes into force like it normally would. Corrective referendums are aimed at specific laws that have just passed.
The fuck are you even on? 600 000 is a pretty incredible turn out for any kind of march.
Racism, get rich quick schemes, and fraud.
Boilrig won't be satisfied until literally every single person that voted remain showed up in person to protest.
Anything less than 100%? LMAO what a weak "protest" get fucked remain guess u have no support!!!
Really? Why would racism ever drive an election??
loud American sweating
A lot of people voted for brexit thinking that the UK was going to make some deals with the EU, and it may be a little unsteady for a bit but end up being better for Britain at the end. Not a position I held personally, but thats what I heard.
What happened instead was some of the worst deal making ever, to the point that the UK may now have not just a "hard" brexit, but a "no deal" brexit which could be very, VERY bad, to the point that Ireland wants to break off just to rejoin the EU again.
Do you not see why some people might be rethinking their position on brexit? considering how pathetically it was handled in contrast to what people through was going to happen?
Mate, this was the second largest protest in UK history
"But it's not all 16 million remoaners so it's FAKE NEWS"
A turnout like this for ANYTHING is astounding. Not everyone can make it to protests due to physical, financial or geographical limitations. Not everyone actually WANTS to protest. But that doesn't mean they don't stand with the protestors. As a rule of thumb you can usually use these events similarly to how we use "small" sample sizes in statistics. Every person at one of these events usually represents some n other people who have a similar belief but can't make it to said events.
Why the fuck else do people think we get concerned when only a few hundred neo-nazis can get together for example? Because it hints at a larger population of them that weren't involved.
mostly an overabundance of chromosomes
The fuck kinda stupid ass logic is this. "They aren't all protesting right at this very moment so that means it's not an issue."
Don't mind me, I'll just repost what I posted in the other thread
Honestly people, we should stop feeding the child attention. Spoils them rotten. Boilrig got himself banned from the Polidicks discord ( a feat of it's own) for having constant inconsistent opinions he kept changing in order to keep arguing and maintain his contrarian status with people and post /pol/ and Facebook quality memes when he got bored with it. At best he's a troll, at worst he's delusional.
You're not getting anything out of him.
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