600,000 march in London for People's Vote on final Brexit deal
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Representing my family who's lives have been touched in so many ways by the benefits of what the EU has done towards medicinal science, be that drugs research or the floods if doctors and nurses who would come to work in the NHS.
By Going out and at least attempting to have my voice heard. Made me quite hopeful that maybe apathy towards the situation is dispersing. People from everywhere came, Scotland, Whales, cornwall, wasn't just London. Even though I know the governement will stick Thier head off in the sand and ignore what's best for us as a nation rather than squabbling over petty power grabs, it felt good to at least try. What more can we do? We don't get to vote, most political parties seem to have no idea what they want to do. All we have left is our voice and more than 700,000 people just shouted, fuck off, your doing a shit job.
And this is more than just about leaving the EU. It's about how the process of doing so has shipped up this feverish attitude towards immigration, gay, bi and the rest and legitimised right wing voices that's we have tried so hard to move on from in the last 50 years in the quest for an educated and more open society. Which is sadly being eradicated methodically.
It's infuriating. And boilrig, to say 'pah, only 7%' as smurfy said. Largest protest this country has had since the Iraq war. And as much as they didn't listen then? It notched the labor party. As will this to the Tories, this will not be forgotten by us the younger generation. I hope all your hopes and dreams come crashing down around you, whatever they are beacuse I still can comprehend them. Peace out X
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More people protested for this then live in the entire state of Wyoming, and not far off from the entire population of Vermont.
Yeah it's only 600K fuckin people
What on earth is with you?
Could you even imagine the logistics of trying to get even 20% of remain voters into one part of London?
I'm sorry this doesn't meet your bar for a noteworthy protest but as others have mentioned this is the second largest protest in British history. It might not change anything, but it'll be an irreparable scar on the Tories already trash public image.
A direct democracy could work, if your population is well educated and not JUST book smarts educated, as even idiots when given all the information can make a well educated vote, but educated on the why's and how's of what might go down in relation to the vote, but instead we have politicians lying to the populous, social media pumping out propaganda at an extremely horrid pace and rampant xenophobia and nationalism clouding everyone's judgement, so like that'll ever happen.
Hardly. Politics and policymaking take time and effort, something not every citizen can or wants to dedicate themselves to.
Are you kidding? 600k of people is fucking enormous!
600k is absolutely fucking huge
it took a crowd of like 300,000 protesters to set in motion the fall of the berlin wall and the reunification of germany.
if anything 600,000 should be quite a fucking statement.
Can we please crowdfund a perma for Boilrig already?
Maybe if we can get 4% of remainers to FP HQ.
https://qz.com/1430978/london-protest-against-brexit-among-uks-largest-ever/
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Just a teeny tiny march
I voted to leave because I'm a Marxist and the EU is a huge neoliberal hegemon. Why would I support it?
if this isn't sarcasm then because the british government is a huge neoliberal hegemon.
And I don't support that either?
It was a perfect example of why direct democracy in a country that has never used it before, has no regulations on how it should be conducted, and has no official resources explaining the terms and consequences of everything involved doesn't work.
We have referendums quite frequently here in Ireland and they work out well because there's a procedure to it. People aren't allowed to blatantly lie (though some still do of course), information packets are sent out to everyone to inform them of the issue, and we have many months of lead in so everyone can be as informed as possible. Most importantly our populace are used to the idea of referendums and understand what they entail.
I never had any issue with freedom of movement - Swedish unions have proven that immigration might not undermine national wages when the minimum wage is a liveable one as they can't outsource the jobs to cheap labour. I think collective sceintific arts funding, supporting economically weaker states is a good thing, and I agree with much of the "progressive" legislation the EU has put through on animal and human rights.
Well, the legislature of the EU is composed of the Council of the European Union, which consists of the ministers of the democratically elected governments of the member states, and the European Parliament, which we do vote for directly. So it is possible. I agree that the EU is much too neoliberal, but leaving it isn't a very good idea either. I think the problem is that in most member states, neoliberalism is still dominant, and that means the EU will be too. I think only recently it's started to shift somewhat, but very slowly, because we can't stop fucking talking about Islam.
Every western government, and pretty much every government today are a neoliberal hegemony because no western government is against market economics on principle.
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That sounds really dirty and it made me realise it's likely Boilrig gets off on watching people suffer.
How's it dirty :s
What suffering? Yeah no m8, the world isn't going to end if the UK leaves the EU.
I like that you don't specifically deny my claim haha.
That any change this big will have a change on the economy, uh, no one is disputing that.
the funny thing about your constant 'arguing' is that it's the most effective counterargument against your own stance.
you really need to work on the whole not being stupid thing, i get the feeling it's really holding you up.
This is why I don't want Boilrig banned. He makes the greatest case against Brexit.
how to avoid strawmanning when your opponent is already a strawman
600'000 is insane amount of people.
Population of Iceland is 350'000.
Literally two fucking Icelands just walked streets.
You gotta be really fucking stupid to think it's nothing (Although I guess you are, considering all the stupid shit you posted so far).
90% of the people I know who voted brexit say its due to immigration. A lot of media would say that the majority of people voted due to EU regulations, but from my experience its just people from towns who are seeing the demographic shift towards other ethnic groups and affordable housing shrinking
I was there, don't think I've ever seen so many people before, at least not as densely packed as this.Talking to some of the protesters was fun and i wish I could do more than just cheer Britain on from the sideline.
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