Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence
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I literally just saw an ad for a ballot amendment that would make abortions illegal period the second Roe v. Wade is overturned. Not even for rape or incest
i fucking hate this country
Well, time to call in my mom's Croatian citizenship.
The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.
Normally I'd say "the SCOTUS will stop this because it's clearly against the 14th Amendment or something" but, well...
Account for it? Pretty sure they're going to keep on surgically altering intersex childrens genitals without their consent. I don't see a 180 on views towards intersex people happening because of this.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/159354/ed826a3f-075f-43ef-bf4b-8ded29377de5/Untitled-1.png
"go vote", people will tell you like it's some kind of talisman to ward off evil.
First: why is voting on people being people or not a legitimate idea in the first place. By all means go vote but don't pretend it's not serious bullshit.
Second: get a passport issued immediately. Get a gun or find your local anarchists or communists or demsocs or whoever will stand in solidarity with you.
This is the real danger, the GOP will not stop being bad after Trump and they will not go away because of the two party system. The Republicans will take back congress and the White House again sometime after
Trump, and will stuff do this again, and again, and again.
I think I'm wrong actually on voting being an ineffective talisman. This convinced me.
https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1054058102767734784
Of course they do. Viewing pedophiles poorly would involve a lot of self-hatred after all.
My personal view is that the GOP is acting far worse than anything else we’ve seen in a while so please go easy on me from what I’m about to say. I’m just trying to give you an idea of why some people thought the GOP was preferable to the DNC.
The general feeling I get from listening to people around my area is that politics have devolved into a kill or be killed form of mentality because of identity politics. We have white lower to middle class people who worry that bleeding heart moral crusaders are going to take their rights away, give the ATF more excuses to shoot your dogs, give government more ways to micromanage all of our lives with invasive legislation, increase taxes when it’s already so hard just to get by, etc...
Some people don’t believe or are willing to overlook all the horrible things going on with GOP because they’re too afraid of what the Democrats may do. They’re worried that big name pro establishment Democrats will bring all the stereotypical big city problems into rural/countryside communities, and I sort of agree with them to an extent in terms of local issues like how raising taxes could effect us further. Lots of local businesses are closing down, my former supervisor was working 3 jobs to (not even) make ends meet, economically things are turning to shit, etc... With how bad everything is turning into, things like LBGTQ rights don’t even enter into the equation for many people when an idiot with bags of money promises to give everything a jump start at the expense of others.
In short, desperation + effective propaganda + the DNC sabotaging themselves like a bunch of monumental retards = tons of lost votes.
Overall though I think the two things which hurt the Democratic Party the most was the whole debacle with what they did to Bernie Sanders, and their regressive stances on something widely popular as gun ownership. Obviously none of this excuses people from continuing to justify the terrible shit the GOP keeps doing. Just be aware that for many Republicans, LBGTQ rights and minorities aren’t a relevant issue at best. At worst, some extremists like the alt right actively blame those groups for the problems this country is facing. Either way shit is FUBAR.
Just remember to all conservative voters. If you don't think they'll come after something of yours. You are dead wrong. First it was the immigrants. Next it was the Muslims. Now it's women, LGBT people, journalists and eligible voters that aren't white. How long before it's other religions like the Jews? Or they come after you for not having a perfect bloodline? You weren't there to speak for us. Who will be left to speak for you when it's your turn.
Already mailed in my absentee ballot
What the fuck does communism have to do with transgender rights and why are these groups so often linked
Conservatives actively want to kill transgendered people, Liberals will sign their names on the Shovel Transgendered People Into A Huge Burning Woodchipper Act of 2018 in exchange for codifying a $30 tax credit on hybrid SUVs for households making between $55,000-$85,000 per year, so the transgendered person looking for political affiliation not seeking to harm them either through malice or apathy has the left to choose from.
And all communists are totally in love with trans people and have no biases of their own? You're not making any sense
Gracious what a witty retort. The dominant political parties of the United States have forsaken transgendered people outright. Democrats have demonstrated they will sell them out to the Republicans who are actively trying to harm them. Only the left remains. There's not subtlety or nuance to this, but then you know that and are only here to drag out a pedantic discussion of semantics into utter meaninglessness and irrelevance so that no productive discussion can take place by thinly veiling your bigotry with a contorted bad faith faux-objectivity.
Christ
Gosh dern them big words like re-tort and seam-ant-ticks. My momma homeschooled me to keep me out of them lieberal indo-crination centers and she only taught me the words outta the bible.
I'm gonna be honest I clocked out halfway through this post when you started throwing a bunch of redundant big words in there to sound clever. You're still not explaining why people who subscribe to a certain economic stance are more hospitable to trans people. I also don't get how questioning that link has anything to do with hating trans people.
Cis people have to make money to stay alive, trans people have to make money to be themselves on top of having to make money to stay alive.
Democrats are scared of pushing boundaries. "Identity politics will lose the election!" is pretty common to hear. They aren't real allies. They won't address the point above because they don't want to be called communists.
Dems have the aesthetic of holding up rights for lgbt but will still follow neoliberalism and sell bombs to governments who kill lgbt like the UAE.
Going left of the "republican/democrat" divide you naturally find out about class and dialectics of materialism.
(speculation) They may be sick of having the state asking about their DNA or caving to religious bigots and a classless stateless society is fucking rad.
Guy has a point. Maybe I shouldn't be comparing the Trump administration to the rise of Hitler. It's not like the Nazis used strong anti-rhetoric to rile up their base to be against people of different religions, LGBT people, Journalists while taking over every aspect of government....oh wait.
You sure are helping me seeing conservatives in a better light wow theyre so nice educated and respectful
I can't see this holding up in court. Transgendered has been legally recognized by the courts all the way to the scotus.
Yeah. And guess who controls the Supreme Court now.
Roberts will go with liberals 5/4 to keep people from being too mad at the courts after Kav got there,
It's so wonderful to have a system where one person decides that a demographic's rights are valid in function of whether or not they want to make their institution weather a backlash y'all sure are lucky to have three of the correct people on the supreme court at the moment.
This is speculation that I don't think has basis in fact
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