• Nancy Pelosi to make LGBT Equality Act top priority if Democrats take House
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Guys, guys, Boilrig isn't saying that lgbt rights don't matter, he's just saying that they need to be sidelined to an arbitrary degree for an indeterminate length of time so that issues that matter more to voters that remind him of himself can take precedent! Gawd...
pulling the same tactic white moderates pulled during the civil rights era
Not really considering that, again, the government is considering making transgender people legally non-existant.
THey'd be HR 1, this HR 2, if I was ordererererring it.
I'm just saying it is unwise to put LGBT rights as 'top priority' or anything else as 'top priority' as it just leads to excluding your own voters who have their own concerns, you just end up presenting them with a picture of your party putting all its energy into whatever is 'top priority', immediately making the voter question, when is healthcare going to be 'top priority'? or even 'why are LGBT rights top priority, I'm struggling to feed my family on 3 jobs.'
ITT conservatives fail to read the nuance of "a top priority", which implies "one of the group of top priorities"
Replace conservatives, with voters.
you've all fallen for a random lady's word that she's got your back--- try to look at it from the bigger picture, not just your little LGBT lookout scope. she hasnt shown enough merit to be a capable leader. anyone can say they've got LGBT rights, thats an easy emotional appeal for her to grab! its like saying "look! i cleaned out my closet! its sparkling and brand new again!" while the rest of the room is in complete shambles
And then replace voters with "people intentionally misinterpreting a headline to make their contempt for anything that doesn't benefit them personally more palletable."
Are you just mad I'm calling out bad policy making?
So now the policy is the problem, not just the headline?
The policy making of saying 'top priority' to a struggling peoples.
Do you know what "policy making" means?
ah i must've missed that tiny little last paragraph [quote]Other priorities identified by Pelosi were a campaign finance reform package, expanded background checks for gun purchases and legislation to protect young, undocumented immigrants known as DREAMers from deportation.[/quote] these TO ME are much more important issues and shes missing a number of others. the fact that theres such little mention proves my point. like i said before: low hanging fruit
i guess nancy should have kept that in mind when she personally wrote this article, huh
I legitimately cannot believe that you people are so fucking shitty that you're complaining that LGBT protections are getting any significant attention in the wake of the administration saying they want to legally erase the existence of transgender people.
keep ignoring my point im done here
In this case, as a party, literally talking about what is or isn't 'top priority' etc, is policy making.
Who cares Have you seen whos in charge right now. The GOP are taking rights away from minorities right now. Democrats oppose to that. It's not like the US has more than two options. And one of them is pure evil. Who fucking cares, an actual child would be more competent that the GOP.
A top priority. As in, it's an important issue. I cannot imagine the how retardedly inflated your persecution complex must be to convince yourself that because someone is saying that an issue is important at a time when that issue is extremely relevant means that everyone else's problems are being ignored. It's almost like you're just trying to find a more palletable way of saying that protecting minorities from persecution doens't really matter so long as there are problems that affect people like you. Oh wait, you actually just straight up said that earlier in this thread anyway.
You have to be an absolute moron to think the government can only attack on issue at a time. Also, "rest of america?" fucking really? LGBT Americans are just as much as america as you are or anyone else is, trampling on their rights is about as much injustice as stripping rights from any group. If people get offended at the idea of protecting fellow Americans, then they sure as hell aren't american to begin with. What if they stripped black rights, what about yours? What line do you cross before its suddenly a major issue. It's easy to sit back and tell people to get over it when its not about you.
I too have had it up to here with this uppity transgendered people wanting to go to the bathroom.
You guys realise that not taking rights away from minorities takes less time than taking them away. Why are you not mad at this administration for wasting time attacking civil rights of lgbts if according to your logic governements can focus on only one thing at a time. Trump certainely has attacking trans people high on his list of priorities, why isnt he focusing on more important issues like the economy No, telling the gays to shut up and stop defending their rights is more important and higher on your list of priorities.
wow look its two things that have been in the Democratic platform for literally decades.
Transgender people not being able to go to their gender's bathroom, being forced to have birth sex as gender, along with bunch of other anti-LGBT stuff are a major problems indeed, but it's not something I would consider the top priority. I consider healthcare affordability/availability something that should be the top priority, and not necessarily the mental/psychological one but rather one regarding emergency/medication-needed-to-sustain-life kind of situations, at which USA is not doing so good atm. When did I say it's not major issue? It is major issue but I don't consider it the top priority. I myself am bisexual and have minor gender dysphoria since years. So it's kinda about me, isn't it? Unless im suddenly not part of LGBT because I don't agree with hivemind's "Our problems are the biggest and most important problems" thinking process.
And here goes the "hivemind" accusation. Youre legit just arguing nothing at this point, either we defend lgbt rights or we dont. Nobody said youre not lgbt. you said this : Why did u speak of lgbt people as a different group here then and say them caring about their own rights when theyre attacked means they dont care about anything else Youre making bad points, the fact youre lgbt or not is irrelevant to that. I am too, so what.
Nobody said it was the biggest and most important problem. The democrats didn't say that, the "FP hivemind" didn't say that. They are just wondering why you and Boilrig are trying to drive a wedge between social policy and economic policy, as if we can only have one or the other and we can't trust the Democrats with either.
Its not about you because you don't live here. If anything, you should be more worried because if america does it, other countries can follow suit. Especially recently populist countries like Poland which find someone or thing to shift their blame onto. Governments tackle multiple issues at once, implying dems would solely just focus on LGBT rights is asinine. They are simply stating it will be brought up in line with other party beliefs of affordable healthcare and climate change. I mean whats the big deal, its not like the trump administration has stripped protections already, formed an "religious freedom" group to cover bigotry including treatment for trans individuals, gutting programs that benefit the LGBT community the most, And just recently banned same sex partner visas for international workers and ambassadors. Psh, seems like small issues really and not systematic oppression and harassment.
Are you trying to be clever? Replacing "conservatives" with "voters" still includes "conservative voters". I get you're trying to reverse the definition here but you're missing the plurality. If you can't understand that, I can't really tell you anything else.
Ok look jackass I can somewhat sympathize with being an emotionless bastard being one but at some point or another you have to learn how to at least fake human decency. I got off my high horse and realized that you catch more flies with honey and that the more you help your fellow man the more he is inclined to help you which makes my life so much easier. With your kind of attitude I have no idea how you'll hold down a decent job without your coworkers throwing you under the bus nor how you'll handle a family let alone a decent relationship with a girl. Either you are sitting on a horse to rival the size of a Yorkshire or your trolling either way the paragraph above applies.
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