• US Elections 2018: Democrats take House, Republicans keep Senate,
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Woah there, let's compromise and agree to lock up children away from their family for only 21 days. Progress!
It's fantastic because his mask is slipping. There's no excuse for half the shit he's spewing.
I didn't even think it was possible for him to be this much more unhinged than usual.
"Believe it or not I'm one that really likes free speech, a lot of people don't understand that" -Trump
"A bigly huge number of credible people told me I like free speech a lot."
Why is he mad? I though he "Declared victory"?
Sooooo just a few weeks after one of his fanatics mailed a bomb to CNN, he's just singled out Jim Acosta as "the enemy of the people." Showing his true colours in this one. https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1060223658898141187
Never. Because "It can't happen here".
Social conservatism is the entire Republican Party now, they're not fiscally conservative at all. Culture wars got Trump and DeSantis into office.
"I like free speech" says the man who wants to sue anyone who says anything even slightly negative about him.
I agree that we shouldn’t compromise on whether dark people should be allowed to enter the country. Same with locking up immigrant kids. Same with gay rights. Im merely saying the things that I believe makes most people vote red, ie economic policy, can be compromised on.
I am extremely concerned that Pelosi is just going to pull another Obama. She's just pitting this as 'we just have a few disagreements but the ~Founding Fathers~ would want us to play nice so let's play nice at all costs'. (The Founding Fathers would not want us to 'play nice'.)
Many Democrats just don't want to be contentious, the don't have the personality to be as partisan as the GOP.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrXmOy6UUAASiEK.jpg:large Can anyone explain to me why these were a single amendment?
"I think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament." - Trump 2016.
There's an amendment that passed in one state to make amendments be only one subject. It's used to bundle shady things in with good things.
Riders getting attached to unrelated legislation is depressingly common in politics.
Something about it sounds so funny to me. Like "Yeah we want to protect the environment but fuck vapers. What do we do?"
I like to think two interns were shmucking it up and wrote the vaping bit as a joke, but both forgot to remove it before submission
I think democrats should be willing to compromise on reasonable republican ideas, I just don't expect republicans to put forth many. Even their economic policy is consistently irresponsible. Gun control is one of the only issues that comes to mind that I think it would be worth the Democrats compromising on.
That's because they're not going to put forward Republican policy. They're going to put forward Trump policy.
Apparently they're claiming they got lumped together because they're both environmental, they sold it as "clean water, clean air"
Admittedly I voted against it just because I thought it'd look stupid on the law books as-is (I'd love to have gotten offshore drilling banned and then just let whatever happen with vaping), though I can't say I'm overly cut up over the result of it passing either, so eh.
That's likely exactly why they attached to it. They didn't want it to pass, so they made it stupid and annoying if it did pass.
Since Florida https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1977/8973503f-c781-4dbf-b2b4-b126085ba84e/image.png
This is basically how reading the Florida ballot felt this years yeah.
I felt this was particularly enlightening. A few pages ago someone mentioned that they were confused about how districting works in the US for these races. NY Times had a different mode for the election map which shows each district as a same-sized box. I think it really shows off how the Gerrymandering works. This is the National House Election results as of a minute ago, showing all the districts laid directly on top of a map of the states in the United States. It might look like there's hardly any Democrats right? Especially in Illinois, right? Keep a particular eye on Illinois. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/133737/e1a22bbc-9679-4087-bdbe-aa7f84e292b7/image.png So this is a map of the United States where all Districts are treated as the same size, just to show you how many districts are actually at play here, despite the physical size of the United States. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/133737/3d00c52a-9908-4678-b7f1-26020da2b05b/image.png If your reaction is "Woah, what happened to Illinois?!" then I'm sure you're not alone. By number of voting districts alone, Dems own Illinois -- but if you look at it on the map it looks almost pure red. That's gerrymandering which is separating out the 'city vote' from the 'rural vote' and just how far that's taken in a lot of places to ensure that the Republican vote gets disproportionate play.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/voters-file-lawsuit-to-stop-georgia-gov-candidate-kemp-from-overseeing-election.html He still hasnt shown any evidence to his claim that the dems inflitrated the voter database btw.
The Illinois thing isn't necessarily gerrymanding (Illinois is actually gerrymandered to help Dems) but the fact that districts must be roughly equal in population, look at California for another instance.
And they are, usually, about equal in population. The question is 'how do we structure it'. I'm just highlighting how it works as, without looking into the number of districts in actual play here, folks might be confused on 'but how do those huge swaths of America go that way and yet still wind up in the favor of the other party'.
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