• Poll: 30% of Americans, 44% of Democrats want Nancy Pelosi as Speaker
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She's the Democratic Party establishment. Depending on perspective that's all one needs to hate someone.
So like what exactly does she believe in that you disagree with
Hillary hasn't had any kind of authority to vote for these things since 2009, and Pelosi hasn't been speaker of the house since 2011. Back then, nobody in mainstream politics talked about universal healthcare. The political rhetoric was totally different then.
I don't have much opinion on her to be frank, to me it seems like all sides have a point. She likely wants to pass reform but not on the level of Sanders types, she's probably influenced by special interests but not to the level of Schumer or the GOP. However the whole "pick me for Speaker because I'm a woman" is off putting.
Did she say that though?
Her supporters in the House did.
The point of the second amendment isn't necessarily self-defense, but the formattion and training of citizen militia to assist in unseating a tyrant government. The reality is different. We have a certain Trump voter here on this forum who claims he did it because he thought Hillary was going to take away his guns. He's also the same guy who, when it dawned on him at last what an imbecile Trump is, said he'd probably 'go innawoods' to wait out the fallout of his poor choices, and claimed protesters of Sessions' firing were going to make asses of themselves. I'm not going to name names, but I imagine that rings a few bells.
I don't really disagree as to whether these people are ineffectual in relation to Trump But the Second Ammendment is a complicated, and hard to parse out piece of the constitution. It means a militia, but it also implies that it's a right to own firearms. You can't reasonably just take the interpretation you like and say "that's the one" when it's a multifaceted issue. I think single issue voters wouldn't exist, if it wasn't for factually misinformed policies being driven by emotional politics. I think the left DOES bear a responsibility in the rise of the "single issue voter" because they let people like Feinstein create legislation that 5 minutes of thoughtful research would quickly debunk.
I'm a bit less cynical. Shes beholden to the interests of progressive and non progressive Democrats. There are plenty of democratic voters in this country that ARENT billionaires that dont want a single payer system. The democratic party has to find a middle ground between progressive politics and old school Democrats (who make up most of the partys voterbase)
I don't think old school democrats would, but in the eyes of a centrist, a far right republican and a democrat who describes himself as a socialist or flirts with the moniker would look equally as radical. I know that there's a difference between a progressive and a socialist, but some of the notable names in the progressive movement in the democratic party (Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders) have described themselves, at one point or currently, as "socialists". I would hope it would bring out young people but there are plenty of older folk who are on the fence still and are looking for a more moderate choice rather than a more radical choice; people who are a bit sick of radical politics and want a return to the more conservative normality of the early 2000's/1990's
Abandon the dream of a single-payer healthcare system. To do that would require shutting down the racketeering run by the insurance companies and hospitals and regulate their pricing. And when healthcare alone makes up around 1/5th of the country's GDP, you don't have a hope in hell of ever seeing anything better than Obamacare. Realistically, it just isn't going to happen. Pelosi's stance on Healthcare is a realist one. Why she should not be speaker is because she's not willing to get tough on the GOP. The time for straddling the fence is long past.
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