Trump: "A very good time to shut down the govt" with regards to the border wall - Polidicks

So he should get impeached, right? Since he's unfit for the office.

The more the republicans shut down the government, the bluer Virginia gets. People around here blame the republicans for the shutdown, not the democrats

our so called "allies" in NATO are just sitting back and watching while we kill ourselves. SOMEONE INTERVENE. SOMEBODY. PLEASE. HELP US.

Sorry too busy killing ourselves. Your problem not ours m8.

go ahead, shut the government down for the next 6 weeks, its only shooting yourself in the foot.

Maybe the US domination of Western Hemisphere has finally ended...

Don't expect people like Chonch nor Biohazard to ever actually admit he should. No matter if they state their opposition to his actions they're no better than the GOP itself. As soon as it's time for action they'll toe the line like the obedient little sheep they are and repaint reality to fit what they feel it should be, disregarding any and all inconvenient facts.

Not yet, but if the US continue to accrue such gargantuan debt, China may end up taking the reins and make things far worse for everybody.

Both parties are equally shit and the fat needs to be cut. The answer to all of our problems is less government control, not more. Mate, all it takes is some orange faced Cheeto to flip your "good" government control into suddenly being fascist despotism. Honestly, it's probably too late to really fix things either.

Totally agreed on the latter. Totally disagreed on the former. Both parties are shit. That much is true. The Democrats are ineffective and infested with corporatist retards. That's bad, yeah. That's still better than the GOP who are actively fascist and courting white supremacists. I can see where you're coming from but I disagree. The issue is weak and ineffective government control. Where we need strong controls they're either ineffective or nonexistent. The controls that do exist are in places where they're useless and serve no point or have been completely undermined by special interests. And having a smaller government will only make it easier for those special interests to subvert the democratic process. Well it's not just an orange-faced shitgibbon. He kinda had help, both foreign and domestic. Even from his opponent being hilariously out of touch and incompetent despite both of her predecessors, one of which is her freaking husband, pleading with her to quit being so out of touch. Trump by himself is so laughably incompetent that he couldn't have done a thing completely on his own.

Mueller might be able to help you out there. I really hope so, because Trump's actions are affecting the rest of the world as well.

You know, I would love to see a real discussion about this with you but everytime you have the opportunity to have a real discussion, you run tail tucked tightly, or you regurgitate paper thin rhetoric we've all become very accustomed to these days. What would it ever take for any of you to honestly drop the pretense and talk like human beings talking other people? Why do you perpetually make this adversarial?

Feel free to yell at me on discord, although honestly you're not one of the first people who I want to have a political debate with

i see you actively engage in intellectually dishonest arguments constantly I'd be surprised if I was even on the list of people you'd want to talk to It does boggle the mind though, why someone would expect to be taken seriously, when they've done little but peddle contrarian bullshit for the sake of it

He'll have his legacy. Just not a positive one.

What is it with people like you and Chonch always wanting to discuss shit on Discord rather than in the threads relevant to the topic? Really makes very little sense and just comes across like the people on Oldpunch who always wanted to discuss shit through pm and anytime anyone actually tried they'd just ignore them.

Diversion tactic to show people in the thread they are actively willing to open dialog. But since there's very little way to track what happens in Discord, there's no accountability to show up. Plus, the whole thread can't dogpile someone when they spout some idiotic idea.