'Naive and self-destructive': Big Democratic donors back Nancy Pelosi...
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She's out of touch with most of the younger voting base. Just a Clinton Lite essentially.
She's willing to "compromise" with Republicans, something that's proven more detrimental given their will not to compromise with Democrats at all.
She said her opposition consisted of just "straight, white men", furthering the divide between the progressive/status quo Democrats.
She's backed by giant donors who have threatened to cut party funding simply because they want her and only her.
She has successfully convinced people whom I thought were against the status quo to join it.
I hate the GOP as much as you do, but saying I'm right-wing or GOP for not liking her is wrong. I dislike her because she's yet another out-of-touch, corporate shell that needs to leave the Democrat party
and has successfully put yet another stranglehold on the Democrats. I don't give a fuck if she's a woman or a man, and to trivialize and downplay my opposition to her as "you're just GOP" is divisive in
itself.
But can you actually list any of these policies? Or quantify how she's out of touch? Because I'm pretty sure she was Speaker back when the ACA was actually passed in the first place, and if one of the most progressive Representatives in the entire House, AOC, is stumping for her and saying she's the right pick for the job, I'm much more inclined to believe her unless there's a real argument against Pelosi.
I made a real argument, you just don't want to accept it. Yeah, she was speaker, but the ACA when it was passed was a gutted, messed up, and much more regressive version of the one initially produced. She "compromised" with the GOP on it who instead of actually working with the ideas behind the bill, decided to shaft it by attaching a ton of riders and other nonsensical crap attached to it. The ACA
that was toted when it was originally announced came out a much different bill in the end.
You're just saying she compromised but you're not listing any specific incidents. According to 538 she's only voted in line with Trump about 19% of the time, which is pretty middle of the pack as far as the rest of the democratic house reps go (Source: Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump | FiveThirtyEight)
She's also taken a pretty firm stance on LGBTQ issues which is one of the democratic cornerstones, as shown by this quote from a few days ago
“I would put my record of support for the LGBTQ community against anyone else’s and challenge anyone to refute it,” Fudge said. “I fully support equal rights for the LGBTQ community. There is not one vote that I have ever taken that is anti-LGBTQ.”
The only reason some progressives are backing Pelosi is because nobody to the left of her is challenging her for speakership. It's a shitty, pragmatic politics decision, not one based on Pelosi actually being a good representative for the base. And I named you two huge issues, Medicare for all and getting private money out of politics that the overwhelming majority of Democrats support and she does not. Yes, Democrats don't hate gay people, hip hip hooray. Economically they're still fucking terrible though and that's a huge issue.
Back when we worked with the GOP to water it down, only for the GOP to still vote against it?
Not the finest example, I should say.
And it still got Republicans to flip 63 seats after it passed. I'm not aware the GOP got its way in watering it down, rather Joe Lieberman.
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