Online “Sex Workers” Are Scrambling To Cover Their Tracks After Being Mass Repor
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So he presumably didn't access any accounts used for buying, otherwise I'm sure he'd have taken more than just addresses and names, so the only place I can think of where he got it is from some social media that it was on, or that this person was a psychic somehow able to gain information from distances without using a computer.
this entire thread has been diversion from your thinly veiled attempt to side with / justify the idiots bashing sex workers at this point.
Okay well pay your taxes I guess, I mean the IRS will be the ones to determine whether the person is or isn't a likely tax dodger from more than just anonymous tips.
You have no reason to assume so, especially given that if he had taken more that'd be easily-provable felony charges. Although I still think he didn't do that, because then I would have recieved some sort of sign-in notification.
As I have said; my address is not on my social, and my social was disjoint from my camming profile. You also have still not read my post explaining where I think they might have got it, because apparently only your theories hold any water even though you know nothing about the situation other than what I have told you.
You're so stuck on attempting to prove that this was my fault that you've forgotten your argument, which was that the job isn't stressful. Something that is literally so transparently untrue that I don't even understand why you're claiming it.
Well if you didn't get a notification for a sign in then he didn't do that, so we're currently left with magic so far, because that's seemingly the only way he could have gotten it according to your description. Why is it so many other cam girls seem to manage to avoid this fate so easily if these hackers are so skilled they can pull your address from thin air.
i think saying there is no sexualization without objectification is pretty denigrating but idk, you ignored that you made that point like 12 times now. this whole thread's been you dodging arguments when they hone in on your worst points
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Well you refuse to tell me what exactly you think is objectifying so I gave up even bothering to argue that one.
to treat someone as an object, to dehumanize them. we've already talked about ways to do it through the internet, and how it extends onto real life. the stigma is very much present in society, sex work is a career ender.
it's not like the prejudice starts and ends at internet bullying. the bias extends onto issues like abortion, rape, sex ed, with that kind of denigration towards women for being "promiscuous" being used to justify defunding clinics, and victim-blaming sexual assault victims.
it's a much larger cultural issue, that you help perpetuate when you say that sexualization equals objectification
No we really didn't talk about it. I presumed you meant sexualisation, since thats what most people seem to think objectification is when they say people are being objectified in that way, so I'm saying well their job is to sexualise themselves so presumably they don't have too much of an issue with at if they chose that line of work. However you're saying its not the sexualisation, so what the hell is it thats causing them to be objectified exactly?
you defined it as such. you are the one who equated sexualization with objectification. no one else here has.
you presumed i meant that sexualization equals objectification? why would i mean that when it is an utterly insane position to hold?
to treat someone as an object is to deny their existence as individuals, and if it is normal and "what most people seem to think", then that's pretty indicative that i'm correct about how pervasive sexism is in society
The point is that it only takes one slip up. Ever. If you slip up, and the wrong person notices, you can be in serious danger.
It's not a guaranteed thing, but I don't know how you could possibly think that it's not stressful. Even if nobody ever finds you, you're still gonna get death threats.
It's an position a lot of people hold that if you view someone in a sexualised way you're objectifying them
How exactly are people denying their existence as individuals?
Any way it's 2am so I'll leave it there for now.
a lot of people hold the position that sexualization in media is done in objectifying ways, not that sexual acts naturally make you an object. it denies people as individuals by the very definition of the word which again, you prove you don't understand
It's pretty insane to see dudes who has no concept of what being a sex worker is like, telling people in this thread who have that experience, who actually know wtf they're talking about, and have been victim of threats for being a sex worker, that their job isn't stressful. How sociopathic can you be.
Just keep victim blaming and dismissing the experience of thoses who were directly affected by the stigma you're pushing.
What other jobs gets you harassed, doxxed, killed by creeps because of the stigma around it. The same people treating them like second class citizens will happily use their services.
...You say this to someone who has actually worked in this field and experienced these stresses?
What authority do you have to make these claims? Why do you know better than her?
Do yourself a favor and actually talk to the people you're making claims about or do even the smallest amount of research on the thing you're holding a stalwart opinion on.
Because you can't. There's not really any way to avoid doxxing unless you like, exclusively post videos where your entire body is covered except for your nipples and vulva and are shot in a blank, empty room with no windows.
There are a lot of really determined sad nerds out there who can and do track women that post sex related stuff online to try and "expose" them. Hell, it happened to a friend of mine, she posted one video of her and her boyfriend, no identifying information, no links between the online presence she posted the video through and her "real life" online presence, and shitbirds still spent months figuring out exactly who she was, where she lived, tracking down her family members and sending the video to them to shame her.
Don't underestimate the abilities of slutshaming nerds on the internet.
This is a really depressing thread. There's been such a massive rise in puritanical thinking from both political sides when it comes to sex workers or people who work in the adult industry, to the point of belief that these people should have no rights and should just get "real jobs". I really thought things were getting better these days...
Also it's some next level late-capitalism to insist that a job isn't real unless the worker is suffering and without independence.
Millennials are the new sexually repressed super frugal workaholic generation, but it's not by choice.
I think I can kind of sympathize with your point, @carcarcargo . I think, once upon a time, maybe ten, fifteen years ago, you'd be absolutely spot on. Protecting your online identity was once very easy if you knew what to do. Of course, it was another time, and I was much younger and ignorant.
I mention this because I choose to believe you're not completely ignorant, and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not trolling or otherwise intentionally being an asshole. I think maybe, your understanding of cyber security is just a bit outdated? Because these days, it's completely unreasonable to expect sex workers to completely hide their identities online. Everyone has an online profile. Yet, online sex workers do hide their identity, and still deal with the pressures and dangers that countless people have listed in this thread.
You talk as if simply not having passwords and addresses linked to social media profiles is all you have to do, and that strikes me as true - again, ten years ago maybe. The culture of the internet has developed so quickly and the population has absolutely boomed. Playing it safe with cyber security is a totally different matter now. It's not an issue of keeping sensitive info hidden, rather avoiding controversy and wronging the wrong people. Your own address and password could very well be out there in a mass password dump, or easily attainable if someone really wanted to harm you in some way.
I consider myself very safe with cyber security, never putting my address into anything online, never, not once. With the exception of amazon and ebay. Even that amount of minimal interaction has me worried that I'd be totally compromised if anyone bothered to try. Imagine how cam girls must feel, broadcasting their physical appearance and location?
In the end you may think we're being crazy or paranoid. But please, if you won't listen to us, listen to the logic of the situation. There is a stigma against sex workers. Shut-in incels that hate women are exactly the type of people who could successfully pull off one of your supposed "magic" hacks. The social media sphere is dangerous enough for anyone. Please put two and two together and realize sex workers, even those who only perform on camera, have valid reasons to be scared and stressed out, even if you can't possibly understand why.
After reading this thread, I've changed my mind; if I was a woman I'd probably not cam, cause @Peachy 's experience seems fucking horrible. On a surface level it seems like easy privileged work but I wasn't considering that there's shitty keyboard warriors out there that just want to harm women.
Carcarcargo is immune to all cybercrime, he's behind seven proxies
Several of my friends who do burlesque and cam work were worried when all this started going down. We were all relieved though when we realized that the guys trying to "put these women in their place" (something I saw one of the pollers say in the comments) don't understand the true process of reporting someone to the IRS and the forms involved. It really is just a bunch of children screaming at the government.
On another note, some of the comments on those polls were downright frightening. There was one guy in particular that kept showing up on multiple polls (many created by the same guy) where he was literally advocating for the public hanging of sex workers to "teach them a lesson"
It was an absolute shitshow.
You can pretty much say the same about freelance work and turn out to be a bigoted moron.
Lol, pay for me to have some knockers, a webcam, and fortnite so I can prove you wrong on how easy it is to get a crowd and your amazon wish list filled.
weak bait
Hopefully it is something hard like filing taxes ha
Lol people still pretending that every camgirl is a supermodel. And that male cam models don't exist and don't also make money. And apparently they have evidence these people aren't paying their taxes. It's almost like have an irrational resentment towards women for some reason.
Go take a lesson on trolling. Even Tudd wasn't this terrible.
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