Russia Closes Kerch Straight; Rams Ukrainian Navy Tugboat
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https://twitter.com/Eire_QC/status/1066806691604430849
15 mins till the meeting
Does Ukraine have the resources to go toe-to-toe with the Russians?
Hell no. They will get annihilated if Russia goes all-out. Ukraine is totally outgunned.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Fuck no
Not to mention the pro-Russia aligned separatists over at Donbass, which Ukraine has already trouble dealing with.
It's basically a question of whether Ukraine wants to fight a war they're going to lose, or kneel in front of the Russians that are openly attacking their warships. My guess is the latter. Ukraine isn't going to attack Russia or Crimea over this, they'll declare martial law or something but not full on war.
I wonder what it would take to get NATO or the rest of the world to put their foot down and say "No, you will fucking not" to Putin. Probably a US president who isn't in bed with them, I suppose.
I guess we're just gonna let Russia have Ukraine, then?
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/89/1b0101e3-0c48-4be7-aeda-ec7ad0c3cd0e/Ds4UPerXQAA9MMb.png
Pic of the embassy getting smoke bombed
Putin needs to die.
I feel like Trump might be the thing that let's Russia just take this. With another president I could easily see NATO getting involved but with Trump around I don't think NATO will fight or even the rest of Europe risking a massive war just to stop the Russians.
holy fucking shit
Whenever the Western countries do decide to challenge the Russian government, they should take bold steps and be willing to back up any threats. So far, Moscow has not been shy about calling Western bluffs and mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNRSrjZMBw8
A live stream outside the embassy
The only way to have a better world requires Putin be killed and the Russian government completely destroyed and the bulk forced in to a position they can never hold influence again. The world has to do to Russia what was done with the Nazi leadership after World War 2. You imprison or execute everyone in a position of power and not let that system ever take hold again. Putin cannot be allowed to have a naturally long life, he needs to either be killed or forced to take his own life.
I remember when Russia invaded Crimea back in 2014, the first I heard of it was the Facepunch thread about unconfirmed reports of something fishy going on.
Guess history likes to repeat itself, eh?
God, when things gonna be peaceful again. I'm so tired of this country.
Both events are a part of the same conflict that has been actively ongoing since 2014, it wasn't long ago enough to be called "history"
It's a bit difficult and incredibly reckless to upend a government that has access to 7000 nuclear weapons. Not disagreeing with the principle, but it is not so clear cut what should happen.
Yay can't wait for another financial crisis *excitement*
For context as to why this is even more vitally important, its the only way out on that side of Ukraine
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/841A/production/_104481833_ukraine_crimea_russia_v2_624map-nc.png
Its going to come down to it eventually. Putin will keep pushing and taking until he is dead and if he is allowed to keep going at his own pace someone just like him will step in after him. Instead, this has to end sooner than later. We're going to be pushed to the brink no matter what, but if we let this keep going it will be on Russia's terms. We're already losing out to them and our position is severely weakened. Had we made the call six years ago, we'd have much better footing.
Obviously Russia is just trying to protect the ethnic Russian minority on those navy vessels.
This is why we need a united European army tbh. If we can't rely on the help of the US we need to be able to defend ourselves. Sadly there isn't really a lot of unity in Europe at the moment.
Honestly this is what nationalists should be up in arms about, not the fucking EU.
The far-right nationalists love Russia. It's their role model.
I find it hilarious that retards in the West are the true supporters of these actions rather than the Russians themselves
Every single fucking person i've ever met from Russia online either doesn't care or doesn't support it.
Every single idiot who does support them or the Separatists? American. British. Portuguese. Spanish. Brazilian. Canadian.
Madness.
Because it much easier to support this bullshit when you are on the other side of the planet, and not affected by any of this
Because those people get off on naked imperialism.
We sure as hell would like to help out.
Too bad we got a retard in charge.
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