Trump Threatens to Close Mexican Border Permanently Amid Tensions - Polidicks

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Even with the asylum application, it's not that easy or simple. The application process has been taking a substantial amount of time. Fani Caballero, 32, a migrant from Honduras who arrived with the caravan, sat by the train tracks, within sight of United States agents on the other side of the steel columns of the border fence. Her daughter, Cristina, 7, cried as Customs and Border Protection helicopters circled overhead. “People had thought that they were going to open the gates, but that was a lie,” Ms. Caballero said. “We thought it would be easier.” She had signed up for an interview with a United States asylum officer, the first step in the asylum application process — but the surge of migrants with the caravan meant she would be waiting for weeks. “Now, I guess I’ll just wait my turn, because I can’t go back to my country,” she said. The backlog of people waiting to request asylum at a checkpoint has swelled, causing frustration among the migrants to boil over. Some of those rushing the border on Sunday had children in strollers and in their arms. The Trump administration has demanded that Mexico agree to host migrants applying for asylum as they wait for a hearing before an immigration judge in the United States. The wait can last months or even years, during which time many migrants are released and allowed to work under rules that President Trump has vowed to change. Mr. Trump wants them to wait in Mexico instead. The ridiculously long asylum process hits pretty hard when you are dealing with people who have very little money fleeing imminent political violence and have to stay in temporary shelters that have relatively few resources as well. Thousands of migrants began arriving in Tijuana about 10 days ago and have been housed since then in squalid conditions in a community sports center that has been converted into a makeshift shelter. Many have become increasingly desperate with the realization of the obstacles still before them in reaching the United States. Tijuana city officials say they have no money to improve conditions at the sports center, where more than 5,000 migrants are sheltering in a space with capacity for no more than 3,500. When things are this desperate, one shouldn't be surprised when migrants get anxious and go for more risky options like what happened. I'm not advocating to opening up the border completely as a lot of people would like to imply, but this a symptom of an asylum system that is deeply flawed and intentionally made to discourage asylum seekers from applying. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/25/world/americas/tijuana-mexico-border.html)

It's pretty funny when the courts have basically said that Trumps approach to this is unconstitutional and wrong But you fuckers would lambast Obama for it if the court said that during his tenure, but now that baby Trump is in charge, you cowardly refuse to even acknowledge the courts authority over Trump in this context. You people are genuinely beyond saving.

I voted for obama mate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsCsOXt0nPo Like Obama said: Simply can't allow people to pour into the country and skip the line for people doing it legally. That's like enforcing a legal system 101

Cool. Then are you for streamlining the asylum process and expanding the courts, judges, lawyers etc. to efficiently deal with the the influx of migrants and determine who is a genuine asylum seeker and who isn't?

Obama realized that the people you're most concerned about are those who are overstaying their Visas, not those who were seeking asylum. What Obama was guarding against is nothing like what Trump is 'guarding' against. Obama knew the problem and worked to solve it. Trump is inventing a problem and is only fanning the flames of it.

Can you possibly ignore any arguments harder than you are doing so now? I don't care who the fuck you voted for. I care about what you're arguing for now. You're saying that Trump can supercede the courts here. You're actively engaging in an argument that the courts have already ruled you are fucking wrong about.

What happened to your brain between now and then.

MAGA

@Cheeky Nandos I would like to ask you to point out where people are saying they want just completely open borders with no form of integrating immigrants. Cause logically thats the last thing everyone wants, due to how chaotic it would be to control. Meanwhile what people are saying in these threads and other similar ones is that Currently America's way of attempting to integrate immigrants, especially for Hispanic Immigrants is a fucking nightmare and a headache. And due to that, people would rather get into the country illegally instead of going through the migraine that is the American process of immigration. And the easy fix would just be revamping the process of becoming a United States Citizen. But, as Donald Trump and similar individuals that hold his believes could care less about Immigrants. Especially hispanic immigrants. They don't give a flying fuck if they're legal or illegal. They don't want them to come in, period. And ironically, they're using the situation of illegal immigration to their advantage. Of course they wont fucking fix it, cause if they fixed immigration. Then that means the Republican Party and Trump have lost their best target of blaming all the problems of America on.

So you're saying it's only acceptable to give a shit when it's already too late and people are dying? What a fucked up world view.

"Let me know when nuclear war starts and that's when I'll support discussing nuclear arms talks." God I'm glad smarter people were in charge of both America and Russia during the Cold War.

my god, the silver tongue on this rogue

Most of the points I was going to make have already been made in this thread, but I'd like to make one extra point regarding the "they're criminals" argument. When people argue that all of these violent actions are justified because the people seeking asylum are 'criminals', they aren't simply stating that they broke the law. Afterall, you don't use teargas on someone for jaywalking. The implication is that these are hardened criminals like those from a criminal gang who must be stopped from entering the country at all costs lest they rape and pillage everything, even though the reality is that these are middle-aged women with strollers containing their three-year old children who made a desperate choice in a desperate situation. There can be no argument that this statement of asylum seekers being 'criminals' is not based in racism towards hispanics. The people making this argument want you to dehumanize these people. They want you to dismiss real human suffering because it suits their political agenda.

Anyone who doesn't think that we are currently in a state and political group in power that is actively trying to crush dissent and targeted groups haven't been paying attention.

Ethnic cleansing does not equal genocide. The trump administration has been pretty transparent with the intention of their immigration policy: more white, european people, no brown people to the point of trump lamenting about the lack of white europeans immigrating to the united states. Ethnic cleansing is the removal of ethnic groups, trump aims to remove all non-whites from his country.

I hope no one comes to your defense when it's your turn on the chopping block