Facepunch Anonymous Political Confessions Thread: I just want darkness for all
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I mean it's basically a giant strawman, for one.
Also, it probably says something if they're only willing to post this kind of thing in an anonymous confessional.
There's a world of difference about feeling strongly about something and, well, that rambling mess of strawmen and insults.
That's what I meant, you get "dogpiled" every gun debate thread but no one calls that dogpile. They only call it a dogpile when it's a conservative getting their own box fort.
When you feel strongly about something based on entirely irrational pretext. Almost every line in that screed is just plain inaccurate to polidicks, let alone FP at large.
uh guys if you could just stop disagreeing with me you're making me feel very unsafe
im sorry I can't argue anymore you're triggering my PTSD super hard right now
Oh boy. Oh boy...
Yeah see I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't ignore data. If you find a place where I have, then let me know, @me and I'll look at it. It's not like I spend every waking moment on FP looking at my old posts to see if someone decided to freebird-reply or not.
I stopped posting about guns when I was provided the supposed evidence, and I will not post about guns until I have analyzed the evidence that I was provided.(do note that in the thread where the evidence was provided, I was dumbed to hell by pro-gun facepunchers. In a post where I thanked the OP for the compilation...)
The reason I didn't stop posting about guns earlier, is because despite the frequent calls of "you have been given the evidence so many times", until I was made aware of the post by that zombie-named dude, I was not given a single reputable scientific source.
Oh, Plenty of weak anecdotes and poorly sourced infographs from sites named suspiciously like "superFreedomEagleAircraftCarriersForAll.com" though, if that counts as "sufficient evidence" in your books then I don't know what to say to you. Watch someone get triggered at the joke website too btw.
If the attitude of a person on an internet forum put you off a position and not the actual evidence, then the simplest answer is that you are not a rational person. Take that as an insult if you really want, but it's the explanation I see.
It's currently past midnight, but at some point I'll have to look over that data I guess.
Some reading for the mean while.
RAND recently released a pretty sizeable analysis (meta-analysis btw) of concrete gun legislation effects on various gun crime, death, injury etc statistics, their findings are less than stellar but still with an obvious lean towards more gun control having an effect on less injuries and deaths.
An analysis with a fairly clickbait title published in Science Magazine (one of the leading peer-review magazines) in December of 2017 shows (in its abstract) that certain gun control policies are associated with lower gun crime values. One of the authors is known as anti-gun. This is a weak source, as we can not read the original for free, but I'm including it because Science Mag is trustworthy and strict in admission standards.
Here's a Feb 2016 paper published in Oxford University Press regarding the correlation between legislation and injuries (Note where it says "Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.")
Here's a January 2017 paper (Another meta analysis spanning 1970-2016) published in the Journal of the American Medical Association that shows that "stronger firearm laws are associated with reductions in firearm homicide rates."
That's four papers in respectable peer-reviewed publications showing that there is in fact a link there. The link obviously is not "If you ban guns then tomorrow there will no longer be gun deaths", though I do hope no one thinks I hold that position.
But I'm willing to bet I can just yeet myself into maybe proving a point, I'm gonna open up @Zombinie 's gun stats binder compendium and choose random scientific papers (aka not anecdotes in some local news, completely useless to determining any correlation, those.). Let's see what a cursory glance tells us.
http://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/papers/women/Law-review-abstract.pdf - Though it's technically SFU, it's not a peer-reviewed article. It reads more an emotional opinion piece than one that actually intends to analyze statistics objectively. This meshes with the authors, a psychologist and a (far as I can tell) lawyer who writes dope science fiction I presume.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf - Is not an analysis, it's raw statistics. Ironically the people who say "correlation is not causation" include sources like this, and their point basically being "There's a correlation of crime in general going down all the time despite guns, therefore you fail". Unlike the papers I posted above, this one isn't intended to be an attempt to find a causation. It doesn't account for societal and economic factors and it sure as hell doesn't do any predictive analysis.
https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article-abstract/47/3/455/566026 - This is good. A 1996 paper. First things first, a 2015 AND 2007 paper by the same authors found that "These findings are consistent with the claim that the NFA reduced suicides in Australia (Baker and McPhedran, 2007; Baker and McPhedran, 2015; Chapman, Alpers, and Jones, 2016; Chapman et al., 2006; Klieve, Sveticic, and De Leo, 2009; Ozanne-Smith et al., 2004)." Source is RAND Meta-analysis. The Effects of the 1996 National Firearms Agreement in Australia.. Though this is also contested since "Thus, although there is some evidence that the 1996 agreement reduced firearm suicides in Australia, studies also found significant reductions in nonfirearm suicides at the same time, calling into question whether it was the NFA or some other concurrent events that led to reductions in gun and nongun suicides." And also because "There is more evidence consistent with the claim that the NFA caused reductions in firearm suicides and mass shootings than reductions in violent crime, but there is also evidence that raises questions about whether those changes can be attributed to the NFA or to other factors that influenced suicide and mass shooting rates around the time the NFA was implemented."
Notice how I bolded "Claim". The effects of the NFA are contested, but there is no scientific consensus on them being ineffective, and the evidence tends to lean the other way, as my sources tell. The issues arise because the NFA was applied in the entire country at the same time, which meant there weren't any comparison points in-country which contrasted NFA and non-NFA at the same time in the same country..
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1022097 - Not at all a peer-reviewed journal. More emotional trash. "The article analyzes in detail the Founders of international law - the great scholars in the fourteenth through eighteenth centuries who created the system of international law. "
"The Article shows that international law - particularly its restraints on the conduct of warfare - is founded on the personal right of self-defense.". Completely irrelevant to the effects of gun legislation on violence. Get this shit out of here.
I'm getting out of here and going to bed. Bet a paycheck no-one read this whole thing.
Arrested and sent to prison for a short time (say a class b misdemeanor with a sentence of 3 months at most) unless found to be actually in active interest of committing treason against the US, in which case they'd be tried under actual treason laws.
Except the difference is that those identified with the Confederacy were actual traitors to the United States, and we have a much more deep and involved personal history with them. They were rebels who attempted to overthrow rule of the US and replace it with their own. People flying other flags and such have no similar issue, as the confederacy was specifically a rebellion against the US, not a completely different entity. There's a huge gap between people who were traitors to their country who, if it weren't for fucking Johnson and his southern sympathies, would actually have been tried as traitors in US courts, and someone from an external entity who has had no certain proof they were or are conspiring against the United States.
I get the chafing of this under freedom of speech, but one of the biggest restrictions of freedom of speech is the treason clause. The entire point of the Confederacy was to commit treason against the United States, and they did, and since then their actions have had a vast impact on Americans up to this day. I do not believe that an entity that once again, committed treason against the United States and got Americans killed for it, should be actively celebrated by anyone as anything other than what they were, rebels who stomped all over what the Stars and Stripes stood for.
As someone on the authoritarian side I don't really understand the alt-right (which is sadly becoming the modern right of America).
They complain about globalism, but won't accept controls like protectionism or nationalization, and some how think deregulating the economy more will make it better when the free market is what led to globalization in the first place.
They have a staunch hatred for Muslims but yet they are rallying behind a man who did backroom deals with Saudi Arabia which promote the ideologies held by the men who did 9/11.
They spout antisemitic conspiracy bullshit yet support the party that takes more Jew-money than Soros could ever dish out.
All I can see them as are a bunch of reactionary isolationist cry babies that think everything will be better if we kick out (or kill) 40% of the population in America.
I have a confession you guys
I just spent most of the afternoon making deep fried, bulgy, lens flare-filled variants of smurfy's avatar for when the Mueller investigation gets super juicy
the last one is for the case if someone other than smurfy makes the thread saying Trump is impeached
Even though I am a strong liberal I was kinda hoping Donald Trump would win just to see what would happen because I knew that, as a straight, white, middle-class American male, I would generally be unaffected by his policies.
It's turning out about as badly as I expected.
I'm glad this forum wasn't my only exposure to trans people, I agree with a past one that said some of you guys need to take a valium. If I were just forming my political opinions (and/or too dumb to know how generalization works) I'd think every trans person is just person seeking comfort and relief for some sort of manic disorder. But I don't.
I don't think its trans people at all, its just that this forum happens to have a very overlapped population of "trans people who post" and "hypersensitive babies." Like, leaving the trans articles and political news aside, even in threads about some random video or a video game, the first people to fly off the handle are more often than not the regulars who post in the WAYT or trans&allies threads (with a significant overlap there too, mind).
I've been "friends" with one of these kinds of hypersensitive morons for years. It's ridiculous the extent she'll go through to make these retarded fucking shitposts. Complain at me how shit's tough and then turn around and make the lowest effort bullshit flame posts you can imagine, like "all gamers are bigots" and nigga this nigga that, and then link me it in discord DMs, like ok buddy.
Also while there are currently conspiracy theories ITT (which I believe as well) re: trolls/attention whores submitting multiple times to stir the pot, please rest assured I have never submitted a confessional before now.
I think most Facepunchers are kids with very little world experience who would do well to leave the echo chamber, travel and talk to people of other ideologies. There's nobody on FP that I think is a bad or malicious person, just very naive.
I have typed out hundreds, if not thousands of replies of Facepunch, but in the current political climate, I just cannot bring myself to click "submit."
I used to be a major participant on these forums, but I just don't have the energy anymore. I wish I could start posting or stop returning, but I can't seem to do either.
I know how you feel.
I think social libertarianism is a good idea probably.
I don't like Americans moving to Australia.
Stay in your shitty hellhole country and don't come here, you're country is fucked due to you, don't come here and ruin it for the rest of us.
Also if you do fucking come here, you shouldn't be allowed to vote for the American politician's when you don't even live there anymore.
This is why the country is being fucked over, because people who don't live there are voting for issues that don't affect them.
And if you leave Australia, you shouldn't be allowed to vote for our Politicians.
Heck, you shouldn't even be allowed to vote on our Political issues since you aren't even Australian.
I don't want your shitty egocentric patriotic buffoonery in my Country, stay out.
Everyone else but Americans are welcomed.
There is not one single billionaire doing enough with their wealth to justify having that wealth and continuing to accumulate yet greater amounts of wealth. Landlords deserve to have their private property revoked and redistributed to those who make it productive (the people who actually live there) with no compensation. The same applies to basically any sector where an absentee "owner" and reap the profits off of a land that they themselves are not making productive, as you cannot justify taking in all the rewards that you did not work for, and this applies double to sectors where the "product" is something integral to human life (medicine, food, shelter, water, power etc.). White collar crime, especially when it involves the public sector deserve far more severe punishments, and as much as I hate the PRC it makes me happy when they execute a white collar criminal every now and then. The free market and free trade are memes and buzzwords that only serve to support a cause that does not serve you, but serves the capitalists in their relentless and cold-hearted pursuit for profit at the expense of you and everything you hold dear. Nazis universally deserve the violence inflicted upon them, and nazi sympathisers are on thin fucking ice. They do not deserve a platform, and anyone who genuinely thinks you can hold any kind of constructive debate with one is a fool. Liberalism is for pussies and anything right wing is for scumbags of various flavours.
TL;DR kill the right, class war now.
Oh and also (same guy as the class war) anyone who says "but venezuela/PRC/DPRK" in an unironic attempt to delegitimise the left wing are fools with no form of critical thinking and possibly also have no ability to conceive of object permanence.
I tried to hang myself and now regularly struggle with an urge not to kill myself because of the way the political climate is. It's a straight up war against good and evil, and I don't want any part in it. I just want to be able to do the things I want to do, and not harm anyone else. Why is that so much to ask? Why do people hate people like myself just on principle? Why? :c
People wearing or flying confederate flags marks them out instantly as a dipshit in my eyes but criminalizing it is fucking insane.
I don't like Americans moving to Australia.
Stay in your shitty hellhole country and don't come here, you're country is fucked due to you, don't come here and ruin it for the rest of us.
Also if you do fucking come here, you shouldn't be allowed to vote for the American politician's when you don't even live there anymore.
This is why the country is being fucked over, because people who don't live there are voting for issues that don't affect them.
And if you leave Australia, you shouldn't be allowed to vote for our Politicians.
Heck, you shouldn't even be allowed to vote on our Political issues since you aren't even Australian.
I don't want your shitty egocentric patriotic buffoonery in my Country, stay out.
Everyone else but Americans are welcomed.
I'm pretty sure the Americans moving to Australia are not the Americans you are probably imagining.
I was joking about the "gas them" thing for Israel. Can you publish the confession?
It's on this page.
I want to whisper into [#2]'s throat as he fills me with his love
I'm literally a fucking Imperialist; if Donald Trump right now said he was going to invade Saudi Arabia and slaughter them all for their oil I'd actually be pleased, (I know he wouldn't do that because he's too busy sucking the Crown Prince's dick) and I've never read a single fucking good argument outside of guns written by a right-winger on this forum. If you want FP to seem like less of an echo chamber why don't you actually start making some fucking decent arguments, or you can just keep on being a whiny little triggered bitch like you claim the rest of this forum is.
The US election was pretty good meme wise. I enjoyed it.
stop this fucking madness i'm so fucking sick and tired of it
the eu is a good thing because europe was an unstable goddamn mess for the biggest part of its history and we got two world wars from it as a (in)direct result
the eu is trying to unionize the people of europe, i can get behind that, while i can understand why people don't agree with it i don't want us to go back to clubbing each other because of our differences in culture and flags
nationalism is worse than cancer
cultures, while interesting, give rise to the idiotic belief people x is better than people y, while we're all human after all so what the fuck
can we just stop this bullshit so i can go back to playing vidya and hopefully making vidya in the future
There are too many furries on facepunch and I think it's because of the political affiliation of the site
If you are socialist/communist but still support globalism and the eventual removal of discernable cultures/peoples through mass-migration and americanisation, You might consider the possibility that you are supporting the capitalist system which cares only for making the world an easier place to control.
That maybe they aren't funding your agendas and movements because they care so much about the working class..
A world were the power is further removed from the people and placed in the hands of the rich.
Where the people bicker over things like fetishes or fandoms rather than feel connected through cultural heritage.
That is not a world were the worker or anyone will thrive.
Also belief in the unattainable leads to the eternal struggle towards betterment.
Man needs faith in something, true faith. Lest he become ruled by his lower nature.
The division of America into unstable and illusory nations is a complete fiction. We are one single mestizo race from the Bering Sea to the Magellan Straits. God bless the Trans-American Union of the future.
If there is one thing this thread is illustrating it's that FP has a wide and diverse cast of ideologies
and some of them are very scary.
Fuck that, I'm moving to Australia and becoming the most egocentric, patriotic buffoon I can.
I've meet a lot of right-wing furries. It has nothing to do with the political affiliation. It has to do with we are a bunch of degenerates.
The casual, unabashed attitude that the American left has towards illegal immigration is legitimately baffling to me. There are people who openly encourage illegals to come to this country and act surprised and offended when the proper authorities combat the influx. Nowhere else in the world would this be acceptable.
I do not deny the existence of legitimate transgenderism but I've begun to in the back of my mind doubt some people i meet online in the intentions, ever since I actually got involved with trans communities a while ago it seems like there is demographic that just cant stop talking about weird trap hentai or trying to become one or feminine penises in their discords inevitable #nsfw channels, just over all very fetishistic creepy vibes
So you guys wonder why there is a back lash against social justice, political correctness and all that jive?
It's a result of class consciousness forming naturally.
Obama got elected by saying he deal with those "fat cat bankers ".
Bernie got popular by promising to break up the banks and making sure wall street pays its fair share.
Trump stole bernies shtick and got elected.
Hillary refused to talks about class issues, refused to talk about reigning in billionaire power and decided to run on sex and race instead. She lost.
See a pattern here?
Those rural trump voters?
The one you call sexist and racist all the time?
These are working class white. Who lost their jobs due to deindustrialization. These people worked in sectors where labor unions had the most power. These people were the ones who got their retirement wiped out by the late 2000s recession and seen their tax dollars given away in bailouts. These people are losses not because Obama was black. They got mad cause they got screwed by the billionaire class.
These people who have connections to unions, who marched during occupy wall street protests were seen as a threat by the RICH WHITE PEOPLE. When occupy wall street was gaining strength was when this everything is sexist and everything is racism appeared. It appeared as a way to smear these working class people and divide the working class along lines of sex and race.
People such as Pelosi, Hillary, and the silicon valley elite are pushing this social justice the most. Why? Why would white people want to give stuff to non white people? Why work against their own interests?
Because it benefits them and helps them suppress the working class.
When a working class white guy who got fucked hard begins to challenge powers that be all the RICH WHITE people have to do is label him motivated by hatred of blacks. He just an angry white guy. Dismissed!
When someone says it's wrong to bomb Syria he gets told he doesn't want America to help.syri a cause he hates muslims. When someone says illegal immigration is destroying wages and Hispanics are being used as a slave class for rich white people well MISOGYNY!
It makes things extremely convenient for the powerful to use political correctness as a means to oppress the exploited and powerless.
The funny thing is the RICH upper class is mostly white if all them white. The non rich is where most of the non whites are.
So By pushing this everything is sexist and everything racist crap you are allowing very rich white people to suppress working class people (who happen to also be not white) under the guise of ending white oppression while actually making it easier to be carried out. It divides the working class along linesof sex and race and it prevents the working class from uniting against the billionaire class and preventing them from redistributing rich people wealth and are preventing a revolution against a capitalistic class who needs to be put down because over stepping their boundaries
I'm really curious for all those talking about revolution and using political violence will win. Non leftists do know how it will work out and figure out how to make a civil work. Every time I see a leftist talk about it and seconds later they admit have no clue how it would work, how to make it work or how a civil war would play out. Like how do you plan to succeed?
So yeah, might had donated some money to Count Dank myself because of the Nazi Pug thing back then, because protecting comedy, but i managed to convince someone from South East Asia to donate his hard earned money too, all of which gave Dankula a bigger platform to stand on for his far right UKIP nonsense, i am such a fucking idiot. I still find some of his shit funny, bit like Razorfist but i tune off as soon as anything political comes out of their mouths. In hindsight, maybe the fine really was too soft?
I honestly think the Death Penalty is not a bad thing, but only to the irredeemable. I know there would be some collateral damage and the such, but that might be the price to pay for saving more money to
help those who can be redeemed and rehabilitated. I mean, how expensive is the lethal injection? And how expensive is a couple of blanks, a 556 round and the gas bill at the crematorium? Why do you have waiting times anyway? Just pull that fucker out in the open and shoot the bastard. Don't make him wait 10 years beforehand. We do not have the time, space or resources for those people, so just get on with it or get a robot to do it for you.
I'm slowly gaining the opinion that the Israeli and Palestine national identities are two sides of the same fucking coin.
Palestinians hate Israelis because Israeli soldiers are at their every flank and shoot Palestinians who throw stones at them because they hate Israelis, who have only the perception that Palestinians are all out to kill them given the opportunity and the only way to stop it is to fence them off from their own and keep their guns pointed towards that fence, which makes Palestinians hate them more. It goes on and on with no end because neither side is smart enough/willing to try and put an end to it.
Literally I think the Israeli and Palestinian states/governments are a fucking cancer. Hamas keep pissing away resources that could go into building more hospitals/schools/SOMETHING USEFUL to keep prodding the hornet's nest that is Israel then crying out with photos of the destruction and dead children when Palestinians are killed/harmed in the retaliatory strikes, even though it was because they provoked the response to begin with. Meanwhile Israel keeps insisting on the "WE ARE DEFENDING OURSELVES" line which, although technically true doesn't fucking do much about the dead civilians and property damage killed in the crossfire. Palestinians are fucking idiots for supporting Hamas who are just a bunch of opportunist cunts who keep using the civilian population as meat shields then but jfc Israel has the same kind of problems going on with this mentality and that's without going into the matter of settlers who keep trying to push their fucking luck and only contributing to this pointless cycle of hatred. Both of them need to be fucking purged clean for any sort of 'peace' to exist.
So Brexit, we all know how shit it is and that’s putting it lightly. I’’ll be honest and say I did vote for it not because I was fooled with it’s lies and views but because the UK Government has gone to shit. They just don't listen at all to what people are saying to them. The lack of police funds has brought more crime in our once friendly streets of England. The lack of NHS control and funds when the population continues to grow, where’s the logic in that? Immigration is a fucking mess they can’t even meet targets which adds more pressure to public services like NHS and policing. You can only cut so much and tax so much and we have well over reached that limit years ago. And let’s not get started on house prices. Yes I was angry at what they were doing to this country and wanted to hurt them with my vote, hell I didn’t want violence. But seeing how greedy politician's can be these past few years I wouldn’t be surprised if they start getting targeted.
Theresa May is a complete idiot who wanted to remain but easily changed her views and 180'd just to keep in power. She doesn’t understand that the public wants to vote again on the matter since we all know more informed in Brexit it than ever before. Yet she continues to drive her view that it’s either this DEAL or NO DEAL, but there’s always been a third option which is to REMAIN.
I hope we as a nation finally start to get our shit together and not just complain on a forum post behind the monitor. It’s not about left or right wing views it’s about everyday. It affects us all weather you care to admit it or not.
Also fuck you Russia Leaders. (Not it’s people. <3)
How long until Furry Nationalism is a thing?
I knew a crazy fuck a few years ago that legit said he wanted to kill all non-furries. Yeah, I don't talk to him anymore.
One time I made a thread about trump being bad and I got banned for like 2 days, that wso messed up I feel like I was wrongly banned but if I bring it up outside of an anonymous thread, certain unnamed mods will bring the hammer down upon me once more. I am scared for my life, please somebody help me.
I don't have any discernible political views, I just like fucking with both sides
Trump is kool
Hatred is cool didn't you know. If you hate somebody, you are a good person and doing your duty as a lawful individual. That means you dipshit (guy below me)
The current hegemonic political position across the globe (Neo-Liberalism) is both utterly undesirable and more untenable by the day. The ideologies that the left and right of the world are rushing to attempt to replace Neo-Liberalism with are equally undesirable and would both require a large amount of bloodshed in order to be realised. More and more it seems as if anyone with a real vision for the future has gone insane and everyone else is content to just let our civilisation continue to circle the drain, too "run out the clock'.
At this 11th hour, I honestly think the only way we are even going to be able to really start the process of fixing things is by military intervention. Just throw up our hands and accept the clear reality that democracy has not worked out, capitalism is unsustainable rubbish that rewards the worst tendencies of our species and we are probably going to kill ourselves if we remain a bunch of divided nation-states. I truly get that the idea of some global Stratocracy is unappealing to most people to say the least. But to me it is a beacon of hope compared to the futures offered by the big three ideologies of the day; A Stratocracy will not subjugate our species to the greedy whims of plutocrats, see non-whites hauled off to extermination camps or have political officers sending people off to gulags for example.
Given how rapidly it seems as if things are starting to unravel, I do think that the 'military option' should start to be seriously considered. In my opinion it is better that then Fascism, Communism, Authoritarian Plutocracy or Extinction.
tbh the system collapsing around us has given me somewhat of a confidence boost because it made me realize that society has failed and all the "losers" aren't really people who have failed morally but had been victimized by all of the consequences of a selfish, parasitic culture that hates everything that isn't itself.
i may be a fat, ugly retard, but even i can see that we're all gonna die, nothing matters, everything's fucked, and somehow everyone throwing themselves wholeheartedly into rabid tribalism and self-perpetuating outrage culture may, in fact, not fix everything.
I have extremely strong opinions about politics (far left libertine) but I don't feel like it is worth it to even try to be involved in the public discourse anymore, nobody will be convinced of anything and they all have their own stupid, ill-informed ideas as to *who* is *what*. Polidicks would really benefit from reading "America: A Farewell Tour" by Chris Hedges, I think it points to a lot of things that many users on here realize without necessarily taking a giant fat shit on the people who genuinely suffered to get to the terrible beliefs that they hold now. You have to try to remember that this machine is feeding off of their pain, even if they support it, too.
I am more interested in taking action to cool the fires without cancelling out political dissent. I don't agree with ANTIFA on beating up fascists but I do agree that fascism shouldn't have a comfortable space in our political discourse, neither should something like, leninism or maoism, but people are really big on ideals over principles right now, sadly. The only way I can ever see the far-left making legitimate victories is through getting society to see the genuine light of the *principles* of the ideas and not the *goals* themselves. You will never, never, give a fuck about someone else's explanation until you agree with their core values. You're going to find Nazi's more sympathetic, period, if you agree with general notions of "force over mind" and caring more about what is closer to you than what is far away. Show them the light of egalitarianism, fundamentally, instead of trying to ask someone to pretty please stop yelling at me because of who I am.
As a closeted non-binary it's sad to see how people project an image onto you that says nothing about who you are as a person or what you think. You really don't know me. I don't care about what you think, I just want you to call me a they without getting deeply offended about some bullshit notion. Why don't you just learn from it, realize that the world changes and nothing's permanent, and move on? This isn't the Call of Cthulhu.
We live in the most peaceful time human civilization has ever had, I wish people would understand this concept and appreciate it. Too many want to go to war or are unwittingly walking towards it. You could have better cars, better games, a house. You could also have your children enlisted to go to wars that they don't even agree with and die in horrific ways because our army doesn't get the idea of throwing tech and money at things doesn't guarantee you winning wars.
After seeing a lot of the trans comments I'd like to come out and say I've been transphobic for quite a while; not on principle but just uncomfortable about them.
That said, after I started watching ContraPoints' stuff about 6 months ago I've come to be more accepting of it.
I disageee
That's already a thing dude, they even blended in with the Sovereign Citizen movement.
This thread is litle more than overtly racist shitposting and genuine hopelessness that's not making people feel any better.
Christ guys, the world is struggling right now but we don't need a bunch of anonymous confessions of people wanting to kill themselves or welcoming global nuclear holocaust because they're scared. That's not going to make people struggling with these things feel better, and it even might push some people to hurt themselves. Anonymity brings out the worst tendencies and the most visceral feelings into the open, without the community's ability to castigate or support the individual, depending on what they're saying.
If you're genuinely, honestly terrified about the state of the world, you're not going to feel any better reading these awful confessions. I'll be perfectly honest; I've lost countless nights of sleep because of my fear that the world would radically change overnight and I would need to be prepared to run away and hide. I've thought about killing myself hundreds of times in the last few years, because I'm scared too. My therapist has spent sum total weeks with me, helping me to appreciate the people in my life who love me and to re-engage with the world and change what I can.
If you're like me (and I feel some of you are), and you're also scared, please please please get away from perpetually, horribly negative spaces like this. It might literally save your life. Find something, anything positive in your life or your school or your community to engage in. I want you to know that you are not wasting your time by "ignoring" these admittedly pressing issues. So many of you care so much and that's evident in how upset you feel about the state of the world. You can't shoulder the problems of the world by yourself, and I'm so sorry that the "always connected" culture of the 21st century is making you feel that you have to.
Spend what energy and time you can spare in constructive ways. If it's activism and encouraging change and maybe even trying to prevent the end of the world, there are are millions of concerned people just like you, and we would love to welcome you into the fold. The world needs concerned citizens so badly right now.
Don't worry friend, as long as I'm still hungry, a baked good like yourself will never be lonely
So I am going to address both of these complains at once as well as what seems to be your main misunderstanding, and that is what you make this compendium (or rather, section within) to be. The section you draw these from is not a section consisting solely of peer-reviewed research and was not intended to be. The section title is "published papers and studies" not "peer reviewed research papers". I made the section broad so as not to mislead but I guess that was a mistake, I include things there that are papers - full stop. That includes historical reviews and argumentative essays. But not only are you holding them to a self-imposed standard within the section, you are doing the same to the compendium as a whole. For example in your second quote above you claim "completely irrelevant to the effects of gun legislation on violence", and that's right, because it was never intended to be and was never claimed to do so. If I cited that paper under that context then you would have a point but I never did, so I don't know why that's an issue. That resource for example would obviously be used when discussing the history or legitimacy as self-defense as a concept and as a legal standard, not whether or not any particular gun legislation impacts gun violence.
Here as well you seem to think that every single resource revolves around some claim regarding correlation of legislation and violence as whole, which just shows you are reading this all under the incorrect lens. So to make an example of the "completely useless" local news articles which are actually quite varied in scope, in this article it discusses what happened when state law and federal law are at odds with each-other and also what can happen when firearm owners are entered into a registry. I obviously would never cite this when making a claim about grand-scale correlation because it has nothing to do with that, but would cite this when talking about dangers of registration and the complexities that arise when the 4473 form is inconsistent with local marijuana laws.
In my introduction, I pretty clearly state the purposes and limitations of the articles, and I will do so again because the message seems to have been lost:
Regarding the number of articles, I find articles to be useful in that they quickly and concisely explain an opinion or tell a story. These pieces offer shorter, lighter reading if you don’t want to read a research paper, court case, and database to arrive at the same conclusion as the article’s author. While some people dismiss articles as a whole for being little more than an opinion piece that has little value, here, I included articles that are significant in that they support themselves with evidence and citations, and have been vetted for accuracy.
I guess I just want to re-explain what this compendium is for before more people misunderstand it:
This is a database of sorts so that I personally can quickly find the citations I frequently use. These are resources I find value in, and each has it's own purpose that is specific to the context I cite it in. While I wish it would "stand on it's own", I discovered long ago that such a think does not fit the format I constructed it in and so I have abandoned trying to make it so. Currently I am writing a large paper (12,000 words so far) that draws upon resources (mostly) within the compendium and touches on most of the commonly discussed points of gun legislation, and that will absolutely be a self-supporting document.
Again you are misrepresenting the resource, but just driving the point home - it's not supposed to be an analysis and was never cited as an analysis. The purpose of this is not attempting to find a causation and why would it? It is only a collection of data and does not claim to be anything more?
I am not sure if you are saying "good, a paper discussing the laws passed in 1996" or "good work (/s), a paper published all the way back in 1996". If the former, ignore this. If the latter, the paper was actually published in 2006.
The rest of the paragraph is interesting and I will absolutely read those sources (as well as the ones you posted in the above sections).
And finally,
You got my hopes up, I thought that might have been a real website and it sounded amazing.
Can we have a regular confessions thread as well as a political one? I think that'd be a good idea
yes, just as soon as the people who keep suggesting it go ahead and make it
i ain't someone for managing threads and neither are people who are suggesting it most likely
For me it's tricky. First of all, I'm reasonably uncomfortable with people just calling them stuff like "illegals" because it's so dehumanizing and I think that sort of diction is part of what makes immigration such an inflammatory and divisive topic.
I can understand the concerns towards unregulated migrants entering the country but I just cant help myself from feeling sympathetic towards them. I will, on principle, always be the type to want the hases of the world to lend a helping hand to the has nots, especially when a lot of the has nots throughout history have had a lot taken from them by the hases. We are not that far removed from imperialism proper; and foreign proxy wars, coups and installed dictators, and other destabilizing factors are even less of an antiquity. Really, it comes down to asking ourselves if its ethical to let these people desperate to escape languish and suffer in the horrific conditions they're born into by pure chance. We can't accept all of them and there are likely going to be genuine downsides to bringing in people who are impoverished, likely don't speak English, and aren't familiar with the culture - but is it really our place to ultimately be the arbitrator of whether or not they suffer or not (or potentially even live or die)?
The current hegemonic political position across the globe (Neo-Liberalism) is both utterly undesirable and more untenable by the day. The ideologies that the left and right of the world are rushing to attempt to replace Neo-Liberalism with are equally undesirable and would both require a large amount of bloodshed in order to be realised. More and more it seems as if anyone with a real vision for the future has gone insane and everyone else is content to just let our civilisation continue to circle the drain, too "run out the clock'.
At this 11th hour, I honestly think the only way we are even going to be able to really start the process of fixing things is by military intervention. Just throw up our hands and accept the clear reality that democracy has not worked out, capitalism is unsustainable rubbish that rewards the worst tendencies of our species and we are probably going to kill ourselves if we remain a bunch of divided nation-states. I truly get that the idea of some global Stratocracy is unappealing to most people to say the least. But to me it is a beacon of hope compared to the futures offered by the big three ideologies of the day; A Stratocracy will not subjugate our species to the greedy whims of plutocrats, see non-whites hauled off to extermination camps or have political officers sending people off to gulags for example.
Given how rapidly it seems asif things are starting to unravel, I do think that the 'military option' should start to be seriously considered. In my opinion it is better that then Fascism, Communism, Authoritarian Plutocracy or Extinction.
yknow the reality of military governments is a lot different than the one time you played for caesar's legion in new vegas
Thank you for your response, I'm at work currently so responding in great detail is difficult for now. Funnily enough my workplace blocks a whole bunch of websites but not facepunch, funny that eh lol.
Just wanted to say the self-imposed standard was there purely because it's the only thing I care about in the context of gun control. Whether something (say, the right to self defense) is a right or not is for the most part an emotional or philosophical argument and doesn't in my mind affect firearms at all.
My position there is very simple, if owning a gun is genuinely necessary for self defense (as in, either concrete threats can be shown to exist (Which doesn't mean individual ones necessarily) ) then the government should enable that person to get a handgun along with significant amounts of free or heavily subsidized training.
It wasn't a mistake, and I apologize for giving that impression. I did write the post between 1 and 2 AM so emotional inflections are not intended. I simply used the resource by aiming it towards what I think matters in the gun control debate.
This is the impression I was hoping I didn't give off, unfortunately. The Compendium is a significant amount of work, and a glance (not in depth reading) at four articles isn't exhaustive at all. I will/might read more from it in the future, but for sure I won't talk about it at length because I don't have the full picture.
Might I suggest splitting the contents into subfolders? Purely as an organizational mechanic, of course.
Will you be using sources that disagree with you in order to actively invalidate their methodology?
oops lol, my b
yeah same, was lowkey hoping after writing it I could just open it lol.
Very barebones post, and I'm sorry for that. I should have been clearer communicating how I used the resource, so that's my B.
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