Facepunch Anonymous Political Confessions Thread: I just want darkness for all - Polidicks

I honestly can't help but look at the "I want to have earnest and intellectual discussion but my different opinions are stifled by the liberal hegemony jerking themselves off =(" statements being said by people whose valuable contributions aren't nearly as earnest or intellectual as they like to make out. The amount of times I've seen someone complain about being banned from a subreddit or another forum for having a "conservative opinion" or that they can't handle "reasonable discussion", then it turned out they were just saying things like "black people deserve to be mowed down by police" "homosexuality is a mental illness" or just some other general uninformed garbage makes it really hard to empathise. Please, if your contribution is worthwhile then post the damn thing, otherwise I'm inclined to believe that all these complaints are people blaming a "liberal hivemind" as a deflection for simply shit opinions. Yes, the forum leans left, yes, there's a bias towards letting low-effort shitposts accumulate if they're left wing, no, this isn't like those subreddits where you get thwonked merely for not having the correct opinion. I mostly lurk but discussion threads are by far the most rewarding when there's differing viewpoints thrashing about so stop being lameos and give me my entertainment

Was it Craptasket all along? I'm taking "newly" is "within this century" mind.

It was Hezzy's alt account. I'm calling it.

I haven't seen guillotine memes, what are they? I feel the same about the gross altright helicopter memes

If more right wing posters were like Chonch for example then I don't think they'd feel such of a problem. Most of the time when I see the major clapback it's mostly to do with some shitpost that didn't really add much to the discussion in the first place. I think you're reading too much into his post.

Or people that liked the attention the first time are coming back for their next provision.

As someone who thought they were trans for 2 years, and then realizing I was just extremely self conscious about being overweight, I believe that people who are "trans" are mentally deranged. I believe that those who are Trans are just extremely self conscious and wants love and support, and the best way to get that is to be Transgender. Every Tran person I have seen is extremely overweight/ugly, and never even pass. Trans people are just lazy overweight people who want the easy way out, they want to be loved and appreciated without having to put the work into improving their life. But I'll be real, that isn't my main view. I believe it is possible scientifically for Gender Dysphoria and Transgender people to exist but it's EXTREMELY rare and less common that the Media shows. They are just classified as Hermaphrodites. Can I just point out how stupid the statement "Every trans person I've seen doesn't pass" is? You've never noticed any trans people who aren't noticeably trans? Wow, next you're going to tell me you've never seen any invisible water vapor and never heard any silent farts. Also... being trans isn't a lot of work? Excuse me? Like, yeah, the handful of people who do nothing to change how they look besides wearing a pin with their pronouns on it, you can call lazy. But the vast majority of trans people actually, you know, try. At least when they are presenting.

Apologies if I worded it badly, it was just a joke I tacked onto the end; discussions with 2+ sides involved are sincerely interesting most of the time, at least if everyone involved is being sincere - there's only relatively few issues I have strongly-held views on where I feel I'm unlikely to budge, and I'm sure the same goes for most people, so lurking constructive discussions is genuinely interesting.

Facepunch isn't nearly as left-wing as people like to complain that it is. At best it's very centrist with socially liberal leanings, and there's a decently sized libertarian streak. The number of hard leftists who believe in some form of post-capitalist philosophy, ie. socialists/communists is incredibly low.

Fp is very centrist. But it's a place with a relatively higer standard of scrutiny of sources and claims than other places. Maybe that's why the far righters are whining so much, they cant get away with what they usually get away with.

Trump being assassinated before he can be brought to justice is the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen. He would go down as a martyr to the entire Republican base, and they would be politically energized further than ever before in modern history. No thanks.

also death bad

I think the main reason why FP feels so far left is because the more far left people are just generally much more vocal and they aren't shunned as much as the far right since this place more left than anything (if that makes sense at all, worded it a bit shit) Meanwhile the opposite just doesn't bother stating their opinion for whatever reason. Tbh personally for me it's because idk how people can be fucked arguing so much on the internet + im bad at it.

nah political tribalism is MUCH more important than people being killed its 2018, having respect for the lives of those with differing opinions to yourself is for losers real talk: just because he's a piece of shit it doesn't make him not human, and if you seriously feel that it does then you should probably seek help. it really isn't healthy to dehumanise those you disagree with and view as wrong, no matter how much you hate them.

I've said it before but if FP is leftist (or even far-left, like many conservative posters have said it is), then what communities are even moderate? FP leans to the right of most other tech/gaming communities and most prominent political subreddits. I think we have a pretty unique style here, it's just a shame so many conservative posters are afraid to have their ideas criticized.

I'm pretty centre in most political areas but another reason that far left politics is shit upon less is probably because stuff like communism is, at least theoretically, based around ideas of equality while numerous sources cited by far right people in arguments often tend to talk about groups and races being inferior and in some cases outright condone genocides. Not even speaking about Facepunch in particular here, just generally. In my experience I'd say Facepunch is more centre with a left leaning if anything.

From what I've seen, those far leftists tend to be able to at the very least argue their points fairly well even if they are still unpopular views. So there's a clear difference between those people and the far right people who are whining in these confessions. 90% of the far right posters around here can't argue worth a damn and inevitably resort to spewing far right talking points (which are usually either outright conspiracy theory tier garbage or simply easily disproved) or doing something stupid like arguing semantics and ignoring any valid counterpoints. It happens far more rarely but there have been a number of occasions where a left-leaning poster has resorted to similar tactics and people gave them just as much shit for it as these right-leaning posters.

Personally I've always thought of FP as center-left because of seemingly most people supporting stuff like free healthcare, the LGBT movement, abortions and so forth, while shitting on anti-vaxxers, TERFs, and some far right bigots you see in the media and Youtube. Granted, most people here don't really tolerate views that heavily involve white guilt or complaining about cultural appropriation, but IMO I don't think you really need to in order to be considered left leaning. Although, I will say that FP was at least somewhat more conservative back around 2010, just not to the point where a lot of people here would outright refuse to vote for Obama using reasoning that's along the lines of "HES A MUSLIM WHO KILLS BABIES!!!!!!!!!". I do recall a time when skeptic videos from guys like TheAmazingAthiest and etc used to be semi-regularly posted in the Videos section.

Yeah FP historically has been dead center. It's only with the election of Trump that I've seen the overton window move left. I still wouldn't describe it as far left, although there are a few leftist posters. That said it really doesn't take a lot these days for a sane person to disavow the GOP as they prop up Trump, perform the most blatant upward redistribution of wealth I've ever seen, and let the world burn...

~2010 was the rabid atheist and "friendzone" phase 2011-2013 or thereabouts grew out of it a bit, still went super hard on the kind of reactionary anti-SJWism I think lay the groundwork for the alt-right fad, though There was a "migrants are a barbarian horde" post and I remember being on the unpopular side of the discussion when I brought it up to criticize it. Everyone did the usual "no one said that!!!" and dumbed me, I quoted the post and voila, got ignored The extreme people didn't get banned because of pressure from the lefty popular opinion, they got banned because they made it obvious they were huge racists

Overall facepunch is pretty boring in terms of ideological discourse. Discussions are driven by threads on news articles, the takes offered are usually driven by vying for ratings, and considering that most of those articles eclipse the same recurring group of topics (mostly whatever Trump is doing at the moment, which provokes little more than "Trump bad" in the way of discussion), there's rarely ever any thought provoking interactions. The never-ending gun debate cycle on here is the purest example of this. It's just a never ending cascade of surface level takes.

which is why i like this thread

sadly there is no way to spot real opinion from jokes and hyperbole, and no way to actually engage in anything more than a one-sided monologue on a confession because of anonymity

Shitting on conspiracy theorists, pearl clutching parents and assmad feminists of the stereotypical variety is something most people can get behind. Its once you get into the more nuanced stuff you start watching FP's stitching break and bust like the seems on Weird Al's fat suit in Eat It.

I can't wait for Russia to take over the world and reestablish a socialist empire

There's nothing socialist about Russia. It's a capitalist oligarchy run by a strongman who romanticizes thier communist history.

Goes beyond an oligarchy, really. It's a straight up dictatorship that caters to oligarchs.

^ I think that might have been part the joke? Not particuarly clear, I guess some "air quotes" or /s would've gone a long way.

People should remember that this is not a Facepunch Political Sensus. I wouldn't read too far into how many confessions of similar types there are, minority or majority.

Also you can post multiple times.