Ocasio-Cortez to pay her interns $15 an hour - Polidicks

Good. My first DC internship paid $18/hr, and my second (after I got my undergrad degree) paid $28/hr. Rent for each was $1100/mo and $650/mo respectively (though the housing in the second internship was far, far worse). I was able to cover my housing and food costs with my pay rates and save up a little bit to reduce the cost of my college costs for the next semester. Everything in DC is expensive from food options to transportation, so I needed to be paid for work or otherwise I just couldn't go. The problem with unpaid internships isn't that its immoral (who wants to work for free?), its that it kills class mobility. Poor students need paid internships to cover expenses to get experience needed to get a decent job. The experience itself is valuable but when you don't pay your interns, the only people that are going to apply are locals living with their parents, or children of the extremely wealthy that can cover all of the expenses for them (or both). I actually looked at doing internships with Congress/White House before to try and get some political experience, and I was shocked to see neither were paid. My internships were on the outskirts of DC but these government buildings are in the heart of DC where only millionaire lobbyists can afford to live nearby. As much as I want to get "valuable experience" with politics I have student loans to pay, so I instead have to pick technical internships that pay interns enough to live in the region.

"Stop praising people for kindness" -Sgman91

You realize you have zero credibility here nowadays, yeah?

Of all the people who need to "improve their marketability", how many of them do you think can get away with working a job that pays no wage whatsoever?

I wonder how accurate the report is. I went to the site and was looking through their report and I know that at least some information is inaccurate. Ron Wyden is one of Oregon's senators, for example, and he's randomly tagged as a Maryland senator for some reason. I might've excused it as a simple mistake if they'd tagged him as a Maine senator since one of the major cities in both states are called Portland but Maryland is uh... Odd. If only people saw this coming and warned him about this issue when he still could have addressed it. Oh wait.

How about fuck you pay me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEa6PdOG2ts Never work for free Never work for free Never work for free https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/716/b1a55ba8-0c45-4185-b9c8-19ea8b057a43/image.png

"The House and Senate both passed bills earlier this year appropriating money for intern pay. The House approved $8.8 million, giving each member's office $20,000 per year to pay interns. The Senate version includes $5 million, to be allocated according to a state's population, providing an average of $50,000 per office." "Despite those new pools of money, most members haven't started to advertise paid internships, Creamer says, because they're waiting for new guidelines about using the funds." I literally just basically quoted the article word for word and I came back to 7 responses that were all, without fail, idiotic insults.

And you believe them at face value when they say they're 'waiting for guidelines'? How hard is it to figure that out? LEt's see here... Right, you live somehwere where the cost of living is around 45,000 a year, and you're pullin' on average about 50 hours a week in my office. Right, I'll give you a base pay of $20 an hour with overtime paid at time-and-a-half. That'll ensure you get a living wage and don't have to work multiple jobs just to make ends meet! Oh wait, that wasn't hard at all. It took me about a minute to come up with. They don't want to pay their interns a single goddamn cent and they're gonna drag their feet on the matter as long as possible. Guidelines show up, they'll find something else to use to hold up proceedings.

Paying livable wage is indeed far-left, communist talk.

Paying people a living wage just leads to STALINISM https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/3b0bc9f4882b0c361bf575ef10ee4d7c?width=1024 Whats next??? Giving people better education???

Damn LIEBERALS paying their employees money! Not in GOD'S AMERICA!

as a concept artist who is struggling to find an income. This is pure bullshit.

I'd prefer saying that your posts give lurkers a point of view at a delusional, whiny centrist but you do you.

Preach it.

Oh cool, it looks like you did.

On one hand, I have your conspiracy theory where a huge number of congress people, including both democrats and republicans, those who agree with forcing the paying of interns and those who don't, etc. all coming together to not pay interns, even though the exact same group just passed a bill about setting aside money to pay the interns. On the other hand, I have the statement that they're waiting for guidelines on how they are allowed to utilize that money.

Ah yes the far left ideal of paying people for goods and services. Which isn't I guess what sgman1 is saying but complaining that this isn't a big deal because everyone will be mandated to do it eventually is silly. It means that AOC clearly believes this is the correct and moral thing to do.

Unpaid internships create a unfair and unlovely playing field of who can enter the political arenas unelected sectors the easiest. If if you paid attention to history at all, unpaid interns are a classic way to staff the political wings with the children of political benefactors, the children of politicians and otherwise in this vein. Youre just wrong about unpaid internships. Just wrong.

Oh, that must be why the republican controlled congress passed a bill to set aside millions of dollars to pay congressional interns! Duh!

According to Job-finding service Talentworks, this is solidly true. You only need to meet 50% of job requirements to have the maximum chance of being hired. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1811/41b9cd1e-649e-4b50-b985-3df83f1f6ced/image.png

well shit, time to reattempt some job applications for some companies.

I love how being overqualified hurts your odds just a little if you know you're overqualified you basically have to show up looking like a slob to raise your odds lmao

why are you dragging AOC for doing this before everyone else

Do you know if the guidelines will require interns to be paid? Do you know if the guidelines will require a fair wage? Do you know if the extra funding will cover all of the internships? It seems praiseworthy to me that she has decided to be proactive and budget for her intern's wages now rather than waiting for the extra funding.

I haven't said anything negative about AOC in this thread. I haven't said she's wrong to do what she's done. All I've done is try to temper the praise by providing context.

Okay? If the openings say she'll pay $15 an hour, then she clearly plans to pay $15 an hour regardless of whether the additional funding will cover it completely or in spite of whatever the guidelines say. It even says in the article: He points out that Ocasio-Cortez isn't waiting for guidelines: "Her intention was to pretty much pay her interns regardless, and that's because they allocated that in their budget."

You marginalized what she's doing as unimportant because everyone is going to be doing it eventually. That's not being super charitable, yeah?

If it comes out that she's going above and beyond, then praise her for that. At this point in time, we simply have no idea.

Who is involuntarily working without compensation? Did slavery suddenly become legal again in the United States? If you want to stop employers from abusing unpaid internships I would suggest educating individuals on the subject rather than advocating broad regulations that will more likely than not do fuck all.

I have no desire to be "super charitable" to someone who has done nothing to earn it as of yet.