Theresa May understood to be delaying Brexit deal vote, will speak at 3:30pm
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She's clueless and she's terrible for the job, yeah. But I think she's the least sour of all the grapes left in the Conservative Party. Staunch Brexiteers like David Davis would've probably charged into Brussels and expected everything served on a gold platter, whereas staunch Remainers like Anna Soubry might've just refused to get on the plane. Theresa has been a disaster for the Conservative Party, but do I still feel bad for her? Yeah. I disagree with her core beliefs, but someone had to navigate the shitty ship of Brexit and I don't think she had any idea of what she was signing herself up.
I despise Theresa May's political beliefs, I think she's out-of-touch, I think she represents traditionalism that doesn't belong in the UK anymore, and I think she was childishly reckless to think handling the task of Brexit would be easy. All of that said, however, I will always feel just a little bit sorry for whichever poor bastard had to try and sort out Brexit; it was going tits up from Day 1, though I guess a more critical person would say she should've just called it quits then.
ye can't have any brexit until you brexit, how can you have any brexit if you don't brexit!
the chances of a no deal hard brexit just seem to grow every day as the conservatives are unwilling to remove may and thus relinquish power, and are unable to accept the terms of the only way to avoid a hard brexit. its politics not populism.
Even if it's a disaster, they're still getting paid.
How the fuck does UK government work?
Bunch of people just having a chat in big room and some bloke sitting on a throne.
Some seem to not give a shit and they are just on phone, some lad just got up, bowed and ran out.
I never understood this
The bloke has to call out who gets to speak.
So can people just get up and leave and go home? End of the working day whenever they please?
Uh, kind of, yeah. It looks bad if senior or important politicians do it, but I'm sure some random backbencher that wants to get home in time to see the football could do whatever they want. Just google pictures of people falling asleep in Parliament or being slumped against the back wall - they look like they're trying to tackle the worst hangover whilst also trying to understand what the hell 'secondary legislation' means. That said, consistently just not turning up to work will eventually be like any other job, and you're also just helping your opponent in local elections, because they'd be able to turn around and say "the MP you voted for doesn't even turn up to Parliament".
What about people standing up when May talks?
Is it members of her party that have to stand up when she talks?
They stand if they want to speak. Eventually all but one sits back down. This is regardless of party.
They're most likely standing up at the same time as her cos they want to speak, but I'm pretty sure the Prime Minister would take precedence in that situation. Gotta feel sorry for the bastards that are essentially playing musical chair, just waiting for the opportunity to spit out a few words that might not even be relevant to the discussion by the time they're called upon.
They'll probably do a new election, but I sincerely doubt they're gonna cancel Brexit unilaterally.
May's deal isn't getting voted down because there's too little EU in there, it's getting voted down because it's not "Brexit enough". If Labour wins we might get another referendum, but I just really don't see Brexit getting cancelled by anything but a people's vote.
British politics has finally cut all links with normality and drifted off into absurdity. In the Commons a moment ago Labour’s Rupa Huq described the decision to call off the vote as an act of “premature parliamentary ejaculation”. In response, Theresa Maysaid that, if Huq were to look carefully, she would see that May is not capable of premature ejaculation.
God knows what they make of this nonsense in Brussels ...
Looks like we just switched to banter at the end
https://youtu.be/Tjp5OmoDYQM
She just left.
In response, Theresa May said that, if Huq were to look carefully, she would see that May is not capable of premature ejaculation.
is that an offer or something
what the fuck did i miss
Labour’s Martin Whitfield asks about the Donald Tusk tweet. (See 6.09pm. ) He asks if the government would be willing to withdraw article 50 to avoid a no deal Brexit.
May says that would mean staying in the EU. That is not what people voted for, she says.
Aaaand that's that for now then
Is this the real life?
As much as I think Theresa May is a clown I really am starting to feel bad for her.
Whenever I find myself empathising with a Tory, I like to remind myself about how they jeered and laughed at people living in poverty as they consistently worked to make their standard of living worse in order to funnel the wealth upwards.
Or how they made snidey comments about members of our emergency services simply being incompetent when they couldn't possibly cope under the strain of massive budget cuts.
Why have sympathy for them? they clearly have none for anyone else.
How long until a vote of no confidence?
Labou's not pushing for one today so it'll probably be a while
They might be able to force the vote on the deal which I'd assume they'll focus on.
Because I know that not every Tory is the same. My sister is a Tory and through all her quirks she's still a caring person, and she comes from a working-class background that forced her to work her way from the bottom to the top. I wouldn't like to imagine that if you slapped 'MP' at the end of her name, she'd suddenly become a cartoon villain that cackles at those filthy poor people. It's like how not everyone associated with Labour has wet dreams about state control of everything. Under piles of shit, there will be a diamond. It just doesn't help that most of the Conservatives that infest the media are ones like Rees-Mogg that would like to return to 1912 where they'd be morally obliged to swat away those pesky homosexuals.
Perhaps I'm too optimistic or too forgiving, but if I were to look at every Tory as though they were the same grain of salt, it only makes sense that we do the same with left-wing politicians.
They're still debating. MPs are getting fed up. Some cunt just tried to walk out with the mace, lmao.
https://twitter.com/dcakraemer/status/1072234234901860353
ok, i must be insane here, what is the significance of the mace?
is britain's government really like this? a room full of drunk old men that can leave whenever they want? and also there's a big magic stick of some major significance that people can just manhandle and snatch out of each other's hands?
The mace is ceremonial and represents the authority of the monarchy because its illegal for the monarch to actually enter the House of Commons ( I think).
It's not law, but a tradition, dating to when Charles I stormed the Commons in 1642 to arrest five people for treason.
The mace(s) represent the monarch's authority, but usually they're removed (i.e. the mace placed on the Woolsack in the House of Lords) when the monarch is actually present. Since the monarch traditionally doesn't step foot in Commons anymore, the Mace has never been removed due to their presence since.
