Record numbers of Americans want to leave the US, 30% of people under 30
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The problem is that the US is so influential that you cannot really escape the bullshit that goes on there even if you live on the other side of the globe.
"the wall isnt to keep out the them, its to keep in the you"
You can rag on California all you want, and for good reason, we pass some STUPID laws sometimes. But I feel a real sense of security here. California feels a lot more like its own, self-contained nation than it feels like Just Another State in the US. California's state government is in a state of rebellion against the Trump administration and it's inspiring other states to do the same. It's awesome. Love this state, shame about the housing market and stupid-ass gun control and the fuckin straws
For me it's a combination of this, and I can't just leave, because then I'm giving up every ounce of stability I have.
Moving to another country? Long and arduous process. Any country that isn't U.K. or Canada? I'll have to learn another language (as an adult, notably harder) because as because of America's isolated nature, none of us learn a language past English.
I can't afford it. I don't have the resources. I'm stuck in this mess and can only afford to vote and cross my fingers.
Canada is a pretty popular destination for a lot of young UK people too.
A lot of British people are also planning to leave, often to places like Canada, Australia, New Zealand and I know a lot who already have. For the UK it's not so much /directly/ the result of a targeted and malicious government but more so the complete lack of care about the younger generations.
Most young British people nowadays will likely never be able to afford their own home in their own country. There is few jobs, the employment rate is massively inflated as the DWP counts as little at 16 hours a week as 'full time' and so much of the population is stuck on zero-hour-contracts which means people don't even know if they are going to be given enough work hours to pay rent and keep their home that month and the abuse of apprenticeships schemes has basically resulted in young people being forced into working crappy jobs at places like Subway since the companies here are so scummy that they don't even want to pay their workers the minimum wage and instead make use of the apprenticeship scheme where they can pay you even less in return for 'training' that you seldom receive other than the most basic of training any employee could expect in those fields. The low wages and the massively increased cost of living over the past decade or so has resulted in many people being forced to rent which would not be too bad were it not for the fact that UK landlords have basically free-reign to abuse their position (I have a literal essay about how much UK landlords suck and are in breach of numerous human rights and health and safety laws, if you want it ask me but I'm not gonna post it here because it's far too long). Add to this taxes increasing and social and healthcare services being gutted and the apathy of the previous generation and here you are. Brexit was simply the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people here and simply hurried along their already existing plans to leave. The only major party that seems to actually care about any of this is the SNP, although they are of course only focused on Scotland. Labour are simply a more diluted version of the Tories at this point; Corbyn seems like a genuine guy but the bulk of his party are just Tories in red ties.
Canada has a number of growing industries that people want to be involved in unlike the UK's failed service-driven economy and is one of the few English-speaking (yes, I know Quebec is French but generally speaking English) nations whose government still actively encourages immigration. Yeah you guys get rough winters but a lot of British people and it's true that Canada has it's fair share of problems as all countries do (the treatment of First Nations folk that has recently come more into public view comes to mind) it's still in a lot of people's eyes a preferable option as social services are proportional to tax, there is more available jobs, housing costs are a HELL of a lot better outside of Vancouver and Toronto (although UK major cities are not that far off) and more social mobility.
I am in a very fortunate position in that I have UK, Canadian, Irish and German passports as well as Dutch permanent residency that gives me a lot of options. I have lived in the Netherlands for a while now and while I do seriously enjoy living here for my career path I really will need access to wilderness and national parks which is just not something that Netherlands has in abundance due to it's urbanization and I'm planning to move to Canada once I've completed my studies here. A few people I know have already moved, and several others have plans and are just waiting to accrue the funds.
this country is fucking falling apart due to late stage capitalism, best to bail out entirely now while you still can
What's your process of relocating to another country like? Ex. what are the first few things you prioritize?
I've been thinking more and more about moving to Canada but moving without a job lined up is difficult for my brain to accept the trek.
How does relocating from America to Canada work: don't you need a workers permit to stay in country at the minimum until you get permanent residential status?
America is really not that great and its annoying we make schoolchildren think it is by drilling it into their head. Drilling a little humility and understanding of other cultures would be better.
The US can only keep going with a giant lie. If there's no American Exceptionalism and no foreign scapegoat, we'll have to look at our own problems, and things will get ugly.
For me as an EU citizen moving to another EU country is much easier than moving to somewhere outside the EU, but it was relatively straightforward. I knew I wanted to study in the Netherlands and I also had skills that were in demand, so I combined the two as my study was related to my job.
Generally speaking if you are going to move country make try and make sure you have a job or other source of income lined up. Having savings as well is a good idea but you'd be surprised how fast they dry up no matter how conservative you are fiscally.
FYI there's this myth that you can't survive in Québec without knowing french but practically speaking in the urban areas easily up to half the population can speak english.
Literally half the customers at my stores speak english, I literally couldn't do my job efficiently if my english wasn't up to par.
Yeah I've been living in montreal for almost 4 years now and I get by fine without speaking much french. Which might change since getting a francophone girlfriend but still
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