Generation Z is on-track to become more liberal and progressive than Millennials - Polidicks

We only started to get legit melodic metal back during the 2010s and its only now hit mainstream force with the likes of Judas Priest's comeback and Ghost knocking it out of the fucking park and hitting some big singles. Metal otherwise until the 2010s was stuck either getting mixed with Rap or stuck in the downtuned Metallica Hellscape that is everyone copying Metallica.

Steven Crowder said my generation will be the most conservative since the Greatest generation. Jesus Christ.

we've got the ultimate arbitrator of sense of style and good music over here

Steven Crowder is a right wing hack

Thank fuck i wasn't the only one who was starting to notice this. https://youtu.be/n6P0SitRwy8

My local library is hardly a sight to behold, if I want to read it I will most likely need to buy it. The idea that there is going to be negatives to how a generation is raised does not seem shocking to me - this goes without saying for every generation. I was hoping to get a sense of what you find so concerning about Gen Z in particular.

Me: likes something other than indie, rock or metal music Lames:

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/108633/16056d2d-c969-4d59-a5d9-c775e8ab3570/image.png these browser extensions are getting out of hand

i used to think 80s haircuts looked good too then i became an adult

I wonder who this guy is? I'm sure he's not just some right-wing nutjob. https://file.house/BWP2.png Oh. https://file.house/7iE-.png Oh. https://file.house/8Txc.png Oh. He's just a racist right-wing bigot pushing all the same talking points that the rest of the right wingers on the internet push. Maybe don't push right-wing viewpoint people on Facepunch, thanks.

You’re the last person I’d ask to have a political discussion with tbh, you don’t have any room for any one else in your world view.

I don't see why we should have room for bigoted right-wing jackasses who thrive entirely on the Right Wing Talk Radio mantra of "keep the base in fear of the other 24/7".

of course we do, it's me Sorry if I didn't make it all that apparent, I'm mostly just joking. If you like the 90s, that's fine, but just as with all "retro" movement imo they're stupid. The past should be left to the past unless you want to want to take what was and make it better. The grunge for the sake of grunge of the 90s was incredibly stupid imo and it should stay there.

Actually, you know what, I'm going to set up an [OPINION] thread in polidicks about this specific, because quite frankly I'm getting really goddamn tired of seeing folks push this garbage pseudo-intellectual Ben Shapiro ripoff nonsense thinking it's actually deep despite it being blatant fucking alt-right crypto-fascist bullshit.

If that’s what you think I or anyone else here advocates for this you have totally lost the ability to recognize anything real about the people you’re taking to.

That shit's pretty tame for someone you're trying to paint as a "racist nutjob"

By suggesting a right-winger's content and actively telling us to go read their literature, you are supporting them and what they stand for. Why is this concept so fucking hard for you to grasp? Why don't you try actually refuting anything I've said here before going off about how wrong I supposedly am? https://file.house/TwbT.png You are telling me to purchase the literature of someone who retweets about how "we're raising a generation of snowflakes" in an article from "premierchristianradio.com", pushes anti-EU rhetoric filled with vaguely conspiratorial nonsense about "centralizing power in Brussels", along with falsely claiming Europe is "a single Christian civilization", and let's not even get into the islamophobia in the quote he selected in specific. This shit reeks of alt-right dogwhistles. What the fuck do you mean I've "lost the ability to recognize anything real"? This guy is a fucking right wing nutjob. It's right fucking there. Plain as day. Want me to keep digging for evidence or are you just going to plug your ears and just say "well actually you're wrong" but not refute any of the fucking claims?

I’m not refuting any of it because I’m not denying it. I didnt and wasnt aware aware of those view points, I am aware of the content of the book. if any view point that raises your ire is just a fascist in disguise how fast are you going to mischaracterize someone? How fast are you going to break any chance of you getting anything but your condescendion across? I dont agree with any many of his viewpoints that doesn’t invalidate anything he says though.

the future is now. y'all don't even know what libtard is.

what in the name of fuck are you talking about you wonk "metal otherwise until the 2010s was stuck getting mixed with rap" the fuck, mate, did you forget about the entirety of the black metal scene just chugging along business-as-usual through the 2000s? did you forget about the best three Nile albums (Black Seeds, Darkened Shrines, and Annihilation of the Wicked), The Chasm at their best, the actually good Behemoth albums (not to say that their '90s work was bad, it's just that everything after the The Apostasy was kinda blech), Septicflesh proving that symphonic death metal wasn't a terrible idea, the two best While Heaven Wept albums, the string of stellar Manilla Road releases, Budgie proving that not all comeback albums are terrible, the two good Doomsword albums, the birth of Mastodon, Agalloch's The Mantle, Isis birthing post-metal and atmospheric sludge... or are you actually saying that the '90s was a bad time for metal? the entire second wave of black metal, the immense gallery of stellar early '90s death metal releases, the entire Hellenic black metal scene that started in the late '90s, the birth of stoner doom, the birth of sludge, the actually good Opeth albums, and the wave of convoluted but absolutely fucking fascinating late-'90s death metal releases (Doomstone and Ahrimah come to mind) have a message for you, which is "your statement is nonsensical and your knowledge of metal history is lacking, see me after class"

I just remembered we're going to have to solve global warming. y'all can have the future back i was kidding

The specific crap I have pointed out is terminology you very often will find plastered all over alt-right crypto-fascists trying to dogwhistle their views without revealing their power level too much. Talking about Europe being a "Christian Civilization", casual islamophobia, anti-EU sentiments, trying to frame the Gilet Jaunes protests as "anti-immigration", these are all straight out of the right-wing fascist wannabe playbook. So no, it isn't just "any viewpoint that raises my ire", it's specific viewpoints that are literal alt-right viewpoints. Wanna keep insisting I'm just knee-jerk reacting? Because the facts are against you on this. If someone's viewpoints are fascist, it definitely means giving them money for a book is a bad idea, and that the intentions behind his publishing of that book and the content within should deserve extra scrutiny. I don't own the book, and I don't intend to ever own a copy considering the creator has shown himself upon basic fucking background research to be a right-wing nutjob, so I can't speak about the contents of it, but considering the anti-intellectual streak the modern Fascist movement has been all about, I would not be fucking surprised to see that this book contains complaints about political correctness or other fun alt-right buzzwords they like using to bitch about teaching kids and college students to not be colossal dickbags based on race, gender, or sexual preference.

I never said anything about Black or Death metal because I don't know enough about it. Nor do I care about the genre, the metal I enjoy is melodic and blues metal which are clearly and absolutely left at the curb for the Seattle Only club of the early 90s. So fuck your class.

blues me-- the fuck are you going on about that's not even a term that refers to anything you are literally the only person I have ever seen use the term "blues metal" outside of maybe, like, a review from a critic with no context on the genre from an e-magazine in 2010 or something everything about you is wrong

I think Swilly has made it pretty clear they have no idea what they're talking about. I mean, if the comment "melodic metal wasn't a thing before the 2010s" wasn't evidence enough of that, seeing as one of the biggest evolutions in the extreme metal scene in the 90s was the emergence of melodic metal. Just a cursory advanced search on Encyclopaedia Metallum for "melodic" albums between 1990 and 1999 returns almost a thousand albums. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/107272/fb0dd108-5980-4308-86f8-d97357bb1e76/image.png

so the generations raised among the most conservative time period in american history are reflexively revolting against it. Shocker.

You mean you have to use your hands?

I was going to say my one of my Favourite albums, Wintersun's debut album, came out in 2004 but you shot him down harder than I ever could. Honestly sounds like Swilly's only experience with metal is shitty mainstream stuff like metal core and nu metal.

Not really a sports team. I haven't seen any vitriol at all between Millennials and Gen Z folks, but maybe that's because it's more of a "2nd generation bitching" aspect. Like Baby Boomers complain of Millennials, and not so much of Gen X folks (which if funny, because they're the parents of both, but I digress). Part of me wants to say how if anything, Millenials would be complaining of post-Gen Z kids, but I'm more optimistic about that. Maybe it's "me rooting for my own team," but with things like the internet, we know a lot more about different kinds of people than before. We're the generation that saw a resurgence of social justice movements, and one that calls for a much bigger standard of civil equality. I mean sure, in each movement you can see the people ""in power"" who advocated for the movement bashing another ("Yeah, women are equal, but fuck the blacks," "black people are equal but fuck the gays," "gay people are equal but fuck the trans folk," et cetera). But still, Millienials are a lot more aware and open to self-education that past generations. We have our sour, conservative batches who just cling to what they were given growing up, but you have crowds of people seeking out what is and trying to learn more and genuinely how to just get along. And in this country? A rejection of the patriotic Flavor Aid that's been shoved down our throats our entire lives, and even more so once 9/11 hit. I mean, I can't tell what Post-Gen-Z will bring to the table. Part of me wants to say "how farther can we possibly go?" but another part of me knows that that's a really dumb question. Maybe it will be a challenge to accept/adapt to the new culture the next generation brings, but I still feel Millenials are the most prepared generation yet, for it.

Wasn't there an article saying that millenials are poised to be more conservative than the preceding generation? If that is true, then this isn't a surprise.