• Bernie Sanders asks why formerly free drug now costs $375,000 a year
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The argument you made in your first post was that it's "not capitalism," which is all I was addressing.
Which flies right in the face of all of the major schools of thought, but sure, go ahead.
How do you prevent cronyism in a "small government" system with wealth inequality? How do you prevent large corporations and the rich from donating more money to the campaigns of the people that will support their interests?
American capitalism promises options but thrives on exclusivity.
Not really. The fact that "good capitalists" think that cronyism is bad doesn't mean that it makes a system not capitalist, any more so than "good communists" thinking that authoritarianism is bad makes a system not communist. The fact that the system faces a problem doesn't mean that it no longer fits the definition. It might not be ideal capitalism, but that doesn't mean it's not capitalism. To clarify, I don't even think cronyism is a problem that is exclusive to capitalism, really it's a problem that could occur in any statist society with a market economy. Cronyism could exist in a socialist society as well, so long as it still had a market economy and a state that had authority over it.
Ah yes, the forces of supply and demand will make a drug with inelastic demand cost less.
Drug manufacturers are probably the single biggest terrorist group in the US between gouging the populous so they can't afford the medication they need to survive while bribing doctors to overprescribe opioids with the intent of killing the patient through addiction. More deaths by them than any brown people our government says are threats combined. If America was an actual democracy instead of an aristocracy, they'd be sentenced to death for the pile of bodies so large it could almost be seen as genocide.
Capitalism cannot exist without the state to protect property rights and the inevitable outcome of granting undemocratic power based upon ability to exploit resources, labor, or IP means that power will further corrupt the state to protect capital. Cronyism is just the natural building of unchallenged power through the state.
It's something that has been getting much worse the last 20-30 years. And why should it even continue? No-ought-from-is as Hume once said. Many, many other modernized nations do not let this happen, and aren't letting their people die in vain because they can't pay exorbitant prices.
I wouldn't call it 'culture'. I'd call it a bunch of idiots being conned into becoming staunch defenders for the people who screw them over.
I feel like this is one step away from leading to civil unrest, all that has to happen is a drug that has a large enough demand to get really pissed
Basically every state except Montana and district of Columbia is at-will state. Only in those do you need a reason to be fired (for something that isn't illegal.) All other 49 states you can be fired for anything, any reason, at anytime (again, for something that isn't illegal. Good luck with proving that tho)
Well it's already happening with Epipens so....
How the fuck. Do they just expect people to die?
No, they expect them to pay. Dying is just a neutral side effect of that.
"Its ok if a few of our customers die if it nets us a higher profit"
And it's exactly why I don't have one anymore.
Insulin is another case of capitalism murdering people: https://twitter.com/Kidfears99/status/1093166693415821312?s=19
We're already in the midst of a medical disaster. The people at the top just don't care because it will literally never affect them.
fucking why we need price controls in this country, the free market is thriving by killing people.
Bernie Sanders owns atleast 3 houses, maybe he should sell those for a start.
Whenever someone makes this claim it reminds of Mister Gotcha.
1, they own one. He's also one of the least paid Senators.
Fuck me, you're right - suddenly all my doubts and concerns of obnoxious price gouging and putting profits above people when it comes to healthcare have completely disappeared, thanks to the knowledge that Bernie owns three houses.
What the fuck does that have to do with drug costs in any way, shape or form?
[citation needed]
Okay wise guy, how does that relate to health care in any way? You've made your epic zinger, now back it up and explain to us how that would help?
*Exclusively for goods with completely inelastic markets Price controls for literally anything else are terrible for everyone
Why?
I think its pretty obvious and doesn't need stated that I was referring to the drug and wider healthcare market not advocating for price controls on random unrelated things.
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