My whole family is pretty clueless politically. Meanwhile my father thinks the Civil War 2.0 : Nigger Boogaloo is right around the corner.
A nice disparity.
My mom and dad are both fairly leftwing, though my dad can go a little overboard. Hes confrontational by nature, and over the last few years he's gained a genuine hatred for all Republicans, whether they're far right or moderates. Part of this is because a lot of his family have gone completely off the deep end with right wing extremism, and he's lost a lot of close ties with family members he used to consider friends.
My sister has very complex political opinions, if I had to label her I'd say she's fairly centrist with some left leanings. She's a brilliant person and always has extremely well thought reasons as to why she holds any opinion that she does, and any sort of political discussion with her is always very vivid and thought provoking.
The only member of my family who I've personally had any political friction with is my uncle. He's a devout Christian who's lived a fairly sheltered life due to a disability, and he gobbles up Fox news day in and day out. One time during Thanksgiving dinner he started panicking out of nowhere about how the gays were ruining the world.
My dad's pretty far right wing, but on some issues he surprises me. He's racist, sexist, and has expressed disbelief in the existence of trans people, but has gay friends. (of course his racism and sexism doesn't stop him from having dated women of color, or hanging out with people of color. he just hides it when he does) He displays all the traits of a Trump supporter, but he called him out as a selfish narcissist who was ruining things. Of course a few months later he flipped over to supporting him and merely tolerating criticism of him, so who knows.
His fiancee is more centrist / left leaning. Hates Trump, likes new-age stuff like psychics and whatever. I'm pretty sure she's still christian, though. She's trying to rein in my dad's bigotry.
My mom's center-ish. She'll eagerly hate on Trump, and supports the environment, liked Obama, etc. She's technically christian but still mocks it somewhat. She was mildly disappointed when she learned my sister and I weren't christians anymore, but was okay with it.
On the other hand, she's super into gender roles. One time I went over to help her with something and she saw that I had *GASP* shaved legs, she started tearing up and panicking and going "but we sent you to play sports and go to camps like the other boys", and I assured her it was just a small single experimental thing I did for comfort, nothing more.
of course I was lying out my ass, and if she saw my chats with my therapist or my amazon order history she'd pass out, but hey what else can you do in that situation
My step-dad's... somewhat rightish? I think? I've gone over to my mom's house sometimes and the tv's been set to Fox, and I know mom doesn't like watching it. She's said he does though. She doesn't like talking politics or religion or anything when he's around. He doesn't bring up politics or anything else either. (Which tells me he can't be that big of a fan of Trump, because all the people who are can't shut up about it)
We've talked about a political issue only once (net neutrality), and he struck me as simply nice-yet-naive/ignorant rather than someone who's into the "fuck-you-got-mine" of conservatism.
My sister's pretty far left, like me. A little further left than that, actually. There's been a few times when I've shown her videos from relatively more right-leaning perspectives that I legitimately only thought were interesting or made a few good points, but she'd respond with "eehhhhh" and in turn I'd worry she thought I was turning into an alt-righter. On the other hand, I'm also the person who introduced the Contrapoints, Shaun, and HBomberguy channels to her, so I'm pretty sure she knows I just watch a wider variety of stuff.
My brother, sister and myself all hate pretty much all the politicians, and generally agree that Trump is just royally fucking everything up. I dunno the stance my late father would've taken, but my mom basically hated Hillary so hard that she voted for Trump. She sticks behind the idea that he's nothing more than a harmless buffoon, watches Fox News, and has taken a real aggressive stance against pretty much anything we say around her that has any political connotations at all. Mostly because I have an aunt that gives her shit for who she voted for on Facebook, so the instant any of us bring something up she disbelieves it, points out there's always two sides to every story and everyone is biased as hell, and brushes off anything we say or basically forces any debate to cut short.
At one point she outright told me that she's not going to take the opinion of anyone that didn't vote seriously at all, and seeing as I trusted none of the candidates this was the equivalent of essentially telling me to my face that my political opinion was worthless. When I pointed out what she said, she kinda realized she fucked up badly on that one and did apologize later, but the point persists and I can't talk any sort of news or anything without tension arising.
super left.
my mom thinks it should be illegal to own more than $50 million dollars and my dad's bipolar disorder gets triggered when he's simply in the same room with a trump supporter
Not sure what mom's political stance is. She voted Johnson last election but most of her political ramblings are based around who is/isn't fucking over wild horses.
Dad's also poker-faced when it comes to politics.
Older sister is super conservative for whatever reason.
Little brother is also super conservative compounded with being very religious to the point that he gets offended if you say "god dammit" (despite being one of those "heh, unlike you snowflakes" types of people) and hangs around other super religious people who actually say shit like "gays are sub-human".
Grandmother watches far-right Youtube TTS robot videos and Mark Taylor who is literally convinced that God wanted Trump in office and that he's part of some prophecy, thinks Obama and Hillary are the anti-christ unironically to the point that during the primaries any time she saw Hillary on TV she wouldn't even listen to what was said, she'd just mutter "shut up, bitch!" or "lyin' bitch!" over and over. Part of this may be because of some influence from her sister, which leads me to
My great-aunt is hyper-right conservative, seems to be my grandmother's go-to person for advice on religious matters (for some reason, probably because she's a "born again Christian" after having tried Wiccan and other religions), she boycotted Netflix for a good while because they signed a deal with the Obamas, and is a bit of a conspiracy theorist (extent unknown) who believes shit that's either already been debunked to death or is easily debunked if she bothered to look further than her conspiracy bubble.
Political discourse in my family is generally good. My parents are fairly apathetic, given that they grew up in the Troubles, so the political failings in their early lives have left them fairly jaded understandably. When the politicians can't stop the Army knocking on your door at six in the morning, or getting shot at on your way to school, there's not much to encourage you to get involved in politics. My mother worked in the most bombed hotel in Europe at the time.
Since I became old enough to vote, though, I've been able to encourage my mother to get involved as well. Despite coming from a Unionist background, we allocate our votes for the neutral parties - though my mother also votes for the DUP representative here because he actually does legitimately good work for the community, despite the misgivings of his party.
We're fairly centrist - progressive in some areas, more conservative in others. My votes have been for parties that are socially progressive, so even if I may personally not be aligned with those issues, I don't vote against them.
I've tried to bring up politics every day for the past 5 years or so, to try to keep my folks in the loop. We talk at the table about it, and my dad actually has been bringing up topics for discussion despite his previous apathy.
We're also a Remain voting family. Being from the Northern Irish Unionist community, we're exasperated by the current situation. Our cultural ties are with Scotland - it's where part of our family traces back to and we've never felt any sort of affinity with the rest of Ireland. We feel the DUP and, regrettably, the UUP have sold out the Unionist community here by putting Northern Ireland's future as part of the UK in jeopardy in their support of Brexit. I had voted for the UUP before, but after their supporting of Brexit after the referendum, I didn't vote for them again in the next election.
This has led to conversations of genuine concern between my parents and I. We don't want to be tied to the UK in the increasing likelihood that Brexit will be terrible. At the same time, we have no desire to be part of the rest of Ireland. At any rate, because of Northern Ireland's stunted growth because of the Troubles, our country is a black hole for Westminster - so the much smaller Republic of Ireland would have to front a large bill for little benefit to take us in the event a border poll shows a desire for Irish unity.
My older brother hates politics. We talk about it anyway, but he's very much an advocate for personal liberty, and feels, in many ways correctly, that government action and legislation encroaches too much upon the individual. He voted Remain, but it was a pragmatic vote - from an ideological standpoint he doesn't like the EU. I'd say he applies a healthy level of Euroscepticism. Our talks are more along the lines of political and social philosophy. We're both of the belief that modernity and materialism is a root cause for a lot of the modern world's ills. Neither of us believe in God, though our discussions are very much along the lines of a desire to return to a more spiritual society - dealing with the cerebral and philosophical problems of life, rather than an obsession over the accruing of material possessions.
I don't really talk about politics with my older sister. We did briefly during the US primaries, where we thought how ridiculous it would be that Trump would win the primary and challenge for president. How wrong we were.
Its emotionally devastating when the two people that taught you everything, how to be a good person, empathy, compassion, kindness, are both completely fucking retarded.
I can't tell if they're really this way or if they've been dragged under the sway of a fat fucking tangerine in the white house, but my sister and I both desperately avoid political conversations with our parents because, again, they're retarded.
I don't really know, but we all share the "a day at a time, but whoever gets in power, will surely have a 50k+ Merc given by our taxes, while we get 50 more euros every year, along with bills also getting raised" mentality
then again, we aren't all that bad here in Portugal, we're actually pretty fine here, cops have it bad though
My family is mostly left leaning, aside from my grandfather who is definitely towards the right due to his stances on immigration and such. He really doesn't like mexicans and muslims and has embarassed me a few times in public by whispering loudly about it to me. My mom is pretty far left but also has kind of gotten into some conspiracy theories as of late, thankfully she hasn't been impossible to convince otherwise about some of them. She remains adamant about chemtrails, though. She also REALLY hates trump. My father is pretty much dead in the center, right-leaning economically and left-leaning socially. We talk about politics a lot and he's always complaining about both sides, he used to be neutral on trump but now he thinks he needs to be impeached. He's pretty pessimistic overall when it comes to politics, but its not difficult to talk to him about it. I see him poking fun of people all the time on facebook that are on the far-ends of both sides.
Last I talked to my brother on the subject he was a tiny bit right leaning and I knew he loved watching anti-sjw videos and such, but other than that I have no clue what his stance is currently. He's always had an "I don't care" sort of attitude overall so I doubt anything's changed.
I've never really had a heated debate with any family in regards to politics, though we tend to disagree on matters a good amount, it never really spirals out of control.
My dad is a low-key Trump supporter, and will always respond to me or my brother disagreeing with him about something political with "I'm older, therefor I know what I'm talking about no matter what." He has also recently been taking this infuriating stance that I'm only bisexual because I, like the rest of my generation, "need to be snowflakes," and while he doesn't press it farther than that, its obvious he views non-hetero sexualities as just attention seeking behavior.
Mom doesn't really get into politics at all, and my brother, while center-left, doesn't get into either other than to occasionally support me when discussing with my father.
Oh and occasionally my aunt comes over. She thinks Trump is amazing, is a master of strategy, and believes he's quite handsome. I've talked with her once or twice; she doesn't get angry but responds to any disagreement (especially about Trump) with either Fox/Breitbart sourced facts ("pfft minorities don't hate Trump, 60% of black people support Trump!" like what?) or, if she has no ground to stand on, "well all politicians are liars/all news sources are biased so I'll just believe whatever I think is convenient"
Dad voted communist when he was 18 and has largely been on that spectrum since (switching to Labour since CPGB is trash). I by and large agree with him and since he's my only family, that's that on that
They're not very political, but prefer the more liberal parties than the conservative ones. Mom keeps calling black people "negroes" and asian people "chinese" despite me telling her that its not acceptable.
I just don't.
My dad and I have become pretty opposite in views, and he's been increasingly vocal the last three years about what his are, and constantly pointing out problems with the "other side's" politicians he thinks I vote for. He's wrong about his assumptions about my beliefs and voting record most of the time, but I never bother to correct him. He's a pretty intelligent man and I respect him as my father, so I never talk about or lecture my political beliefs to him out of that respect.
My mothers still a bit opposite of me, but more moderate. She's at least considerate and never really brings it up unless it's a huge political embarrassment to the country or something.
My dad is ultra right-wing, my mom parrots his opinion, my sisters are politically unaware and my brother is basically an unofficial Libertarian who is ironically a self-made man for the most part.
It sucks because my dad went through a shitty life that led him to be an ultra conservative--he got screwed over by an ex-wife who financially raped him to the point of nearly starving to death, forcing him to file for bankruptcy on a house he was trying to fix up, never having the chance to get a higher education nor being able to qualify for any kind of welfare at the time and in came Fox News to prey on him in his most desperate hour during those years(He hadn't met my mother yet by then.) and basically what happened to him is the same thing Trump did to the voters in the Rust Belt, he was lied to and ate up the propaganda.
Half of the reason I argue with him is to push his buttons, the other half is because I feel like Luke Skywalker trying to bring my father back from the dark side.
Basically just us shitting on Trump or Malcolm Turnbull or Scott Morrison or whoever the fuck out PM is now, but then me trying to steer the conversation away from how my mum doesn't mind people being gay or trans as long as they stop being so loud about it.
Father is conservative-right, mother is centre-left, and sister is hippie-left.
Dad's center, hates Trump, as does my sister. So during dinner it's the anti-Trump circlejerk of the century.
is your dad this?
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well, for starters, I'm the only socdem within my entire family. My parents are neo-conservatives who believe that, though Trump is a pawn for the GOP, he's doing a great job. I don't mind them, though, as our debates are always very civil and they respect my right to an opinion. My uncle/aunt are very liberal, and believe whites are indebted to minorities as a result of the actions of their ancestors. They very rarely instigate political debates, however, as they feel that it's best not to introduce politics into normal social situations. My grandparents have always been the wildcards within the family, voting for whoever they feel best represents the nation. My family consists mainly of moderates, and, as a direct result, isn't as crazy as y'all's.
fun fact: for the longest time i knew a neo-Nazi who spoke constantly of a PURE WHITE TEXAS, BUILT UPON CHRISTIAN TRADITIONAL VALUES. he claimed to feel very connected to Texas historically, when in reality he was too dense to realize that Texas was built upon the backs of various minorities working together. he would ignore this fact whenever i'd bring it up, however, as he was seemingly too dense to notice the holes within his own arguments. he took a DNA test and found out he was 98% European, something he used to prove that he was a "true Texan" or something when in reality his family hadn't even been in Texas for 20 years. For comparison, my family has been in Northern Mexico/Central Texas for ~200 years, with links to the Teyas native group and Spanish conquistadors who originally made the journey up here. my family has deep roots within Texas, as well as the USA as a whole, and yet this /pol/-tier LARPer felt his opinion was more valuable than mine because i wasn't a TRUE ARYAn. even better: he used to be both gay AND a furry, and he tried his best to hide it.
if you can't tell i'm very patriotic
Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be depending on whoever hears it, my family have all been centrist left or actual left. I've been moving towards a more leftist view of things than centrist as of last year, though. The majority of them, except for some of the oldest, tend to at least have a clue when it comes to local, if not international, politics, which being said, they are tolerant enough of opposing view points as long as they're grounded in reality, and make a little sense. But being something like a MAGA tard here won't put you in their good books, because they don't like associating with folks who live in realities of their own, usually only showing contempt towards such people, and hostility if they try to push their dream realities on to them. That's basically it in a nutshell.
I don't really talk about politics with my family much, not because it'd be a shit show but because it's not something we really do. That said me and my dad do talk about how fucking batshit insane everyone in the US is which is always good for a laugh, so at least we have that in common. I don't even know which party's my mum and dad vote for. If I had to guess i'd think my dad is center-left and my mum might be center-right.
My sister and her husband on the other hand I know are very far left leaning and I myself lean pretty far left.
My parents are both solid conservatives - Dad listens to Rush Limbaugh, Mom's more of a Drudge Report gal. Older sister is a somewhat softer "little-R" Republican, while my other sister is a strong libertarian.
Out of the five of us, I'm probably the farthest "left", even though I don't consider myself a leftist.
I have sympathies for the Republican Party of auld lang syne (conservation of natural resources, enforcing antitrust, promoting Federalism) and I'd like to see it restored to those days. Until then, I'm happy to stay in my "political wilderness".
Despite all that, I have good political discussions with my family. I once managed to convince my mom that public healthcare isn't a terrible idea on the grounds that we've had public education for centuries.
We also roundly debate the merits of the private market and the need for antitrust - I like bringing up the fact that it was Reagan's Justice Department that shattered the AT&T monopoly.
My dad, on the other hand, is a harder sell. He'll concede some points, like my argument that there's nothing to stop a monopoly if the government won't step in, but then he repeats that everything goes to hell once the government gets involved in anything.
Oh well.
At the end of the day, we're an extremely tight family, so we always forgive and forget even if debate devolves into argument.
While my parents may have some opinions they arent willing to change due to their past experiances on their life they can still see reason on an arguement even if they disagree with it,however i think i may have be pushing them a little too hard when having discussions and try to change their views to the point when they dont want to discuss it any further as i try to continue the conversation again.
My brother isnt too interested with politics and usualy sides with my parents while he is busy with his life at work and with his girlfriend.I on the other hand dont have many occupations apart from studying and reading about history that interests me and outside news which usualy bring into question how valid the sources are reading are from my parents.Overal i have to say conversations are healthy apart from the times i push too hard or forget some details or a source when conversing.
Greek parents can be the most stubborn people out there. I know exactly what you mean.
while stubborn i cant really blame them as they still explain why they have such views in the first place and i also have a tendecy of going on about something way too long something that like my teacher and close friend also noted,the fact that they still understand another view while not completely agreeing to it makes me think they are reasonable people for the most part,nobody can be correct at everything afterall.
Most of my family tends to keep their politics to themselves, with one of my sisters being completely apathetic, but over the past few years, since the Brexit referendum and Trump's election, my dad has become both increasingly far right and increasingly open about it. He spends most of his time with Fox News playing from his computer and that seems to be his main source of news along with Facebook. I love my Dad and I try to avoid debates because I hate arguing with family, but given the opportunity in a conversation he will constantly bring up stuff like "Did you know Nazi stands for national SOCIALISM? The Nazis were left wing and also communism killed even more people than them" and half the stuff he share's on Facebook is your typical far right crap that's included outright fake information that I have to call out.
It's left me a bit exhausted and I wish I could go back to before this madness.
I'm pretty sure most of my family are left-leaning (which in Sweden, compared to US is probably far left) with a few leaning right.
We very rarely discuss politics with each other and i don't know if that's because we respect one another or because none of us wants to bring up any possible conflict.
Well literally my entire family are varying degrees of Christians and although my mum is what I’d say is Centre-Left (With some Conservative/Christian views on LGBT) her friend did recently come out as a Lesbian so she’s been reading up on that sort of thing, and although she’s has been a Lib Dem voter The lasted couple of local elections she’s voted Labour because they are the only party that actually tries to get votes and does things in the public interest (Town is pretty much a conservative safe seat).
My dad on the other hand (divorced) is also a Christian, but whilst he’s not too openly political due to living in Hong Kong he’s onnthe more left side of the spectrum, his side of the family are what I’d describe as varying degrees of centre left-right, for example my grandparents were Daily Mail Pro-Brexit folks for a while until he convinced them otherwise, but due to being from a mining town they mostly vote either Labour or Conservative (again it depends on the candidate in Local Elections)
Mother's the worst probably. Openly parrots white nationalism, believes in the whole great replacement shit, thinks brown people have inherently lower IQ and involved in crime more, considers EU to be on the level of Soviet Union or Nazi Germany or something, incredibly racist against anything not white. Thinks everything but alt right news has a specific agenda. On some topics actually goes left but usually just momentarily.
Didn't use to be so, transformation happened few years ago, voted green party before, funny enough.
Dad's more realistically conservative and gets regularly upset about the above, tries to avoid any discussion when possible.
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