• Controversy, vandalism claims follow protest at Border Patrol Museum
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https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/crime/2019/02/18/national-border-patrol-museum-el-paso-protest-sparks-vandalism-claims/2907603002/ A weekend protest sparked the ire of U.S. Border Patrol supporters after accusations that a memorial to fallen agents was defaced at the National Border Patrol Museumin El Paso. About two dozen protesters — some with bandannas covering their faces —  held banners, sang and chanted in a take-over-style demonstration Saturday afternoon inside the museum on Trans Mountain Road. The museum is not a part of the Border Patrol. The museum, which has free admission, is run on donations and by volunteers.  Only picture I could find of the memorial is from Breitbart: https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/02/Tornillo-The-Occupation-photo-of-defaced-Border-Patrol-memorial-dated-February-16-640x480.jpg The pictures depict at least one of the children who died while in Border Patrol custody. I don't think anyone would say having children die while in official custody is anything but tragic, but having to deface a memorial to fallen agents to make your point is disgusting. Especially when you consider the unheard stories of how many thirsty, starving, abused people that the Border Patrol saves as a regular part of their job. Not to mention these fallen agents aren't even complicit in whatever policies of Trump these people disagree with, or even the specific deaths of these children.
Yeah, this is fucked up. They're hurting their case.
These people are lumping Border Patrol in with ICE just because they're both immigration law enforcement, which is really the only connection they share. Unless these people are one of the few who genuinely believe we should dissolve the border, in which case they can go fuck themselves because that's even worse than The Wall™ .
It's not great, and it's shocking, but the US government is ripping children from their parents, neglecting them, and letting them die, all as part of a concentrated effort to terrorize refugees. It's fucking atrocious this is happening, and frankly taping a photo of a child onto a wall pales in relation to that. It reminds me a bit of people getting up in arms when Democrats use profanity to describe the racist, fascist dictator in office Protests aren't always pretty or convenient. That's the fucking point.
what the fuck is a Border Patrol museum Americaaaaa whyyyy are you so weird
Nobody should be in that desert full stop. It's dangerous and the Border Patrol and aid groups find hundreds of bodies a year. Not to mention the ones they don't. It's awful but sick people in our care can't always be saved. At least one of the little girls to die was already ill. Trump's policy changes to essential services are abhorrent, sure. That's why we got to vote for change, but defacing memorials to those who served is wrong and pointing blame at the wrong people. According to CBP records, the girl and her father were taken into custody about 10 p.m. Dec. 6 south of Lordsburg, N.M., as part of a group of 163 people who approached U.S. agents to turn themselves in. More than eight hours later, the child began having seizures at 6:25 a.m., CBP records show. Emergency responders, who arrived soon after, measured her body temperature at 105.7 degrees, and according to a statement from CBP, she “reportedly had not eaten or consumed water for several days.” After a helicopter flight to Providence Children’s Hospital in El Paso, the child went into cardiac arrest and “was revived,” according to the agency. “However, the child did not recover and died at the hospital less than 24 hours after being transported,” CBP said. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/7-year-old-migrant-girl-taken-into-border-patrol-custody-dies-of-dehydration-exhaustion/2018/12/13/8909e356-ff03-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html When masses of people risk their lives to cross a desert to seek refuge, people are going to not make it. It's fucking amazing more people don't die in our custody. Our immigration system needs drastic reform. Not dismantling. We need more funding for the Border Patrol. more funding for Customs. We need more agents. Defunding any of this is dangerous. Nobody should be crossing through the desert. Nobody. We need to reduce the number of undocumented people making that trip. I'm not a subject scholar but it seems to me the way to do that is by making it easier to cross with documentation. There will always be people who will cross illegally and put themselves in harm's way, but we can overhaul the system to mitigate those who do. I worry with future unrest in the south and climate disasters that the real immigration crisis is in front of us and we need a smart system to deal with that. We will need to monitor our border for that. A complete border wall is a stupid attempt to make it better but neither is tearing down the whole system. The officers and agents at the border can be given our support while fighting against the policy changes made to their agencies. Because it's gonna be the same agents and officers serving under the next President who needs to try to fix this mess. /Generic border policy rant
I don't get your point, that's not at all exclusive to America. There's museums for all types of shit, Schaffhausen has a Grenzwache collection too in their museum detailing their border guards.
It wasnt even damaged, its juat posting photos over others
America is well-known for its tourist traps. You can't drive between here and Fort Sumner without seeing at least 2 dozen billboards screaming "BILLY THE KID IS BURIED HERE! COME SEE WHERE WE BURIED A DEAD GUY WHO BROKE THE LAW A LOT!" on the way there. I've also once visited a rattlesnake museum. Yup, you read that right. A museum (more like a small building with a few plaques and live specimens, so more like a reptile house) dedicated to nothing but rattlesnakes.
You don't understand. We're fuckin' gigantic. The average US state is only like 4% smaller than the average European country. Imagine all the weird shit you can find somewhere in Europe. But if it's somewhere over here and it's weird, the rest of us all have to take ownership of its weirdness. In Europe they can just be like, "Ah yeah, those Hungarians would do that."
Nah, we do that, too. Friend of mine never passes up a chance to piss on Texas, for instance. And my great-grandmother used to always say that if you knocked the shit and wind out of a Texan, you could bury what's left in a matchbox.
It isn't uncommon for law enforcement to have a memorial wall of people who have died in the line of duty. It's also not really that weird...you are learning the history of an agency.
Nah man, nobody takes ownership of anything my state, Florida, does Imagine if the rest of the world judged the US by the shit they heard Florida did this week lmao
Don't forget Floridaman
the cpb union elected an unabashedly partisan right wing nut as the president who has been censuring and revising their website to scrub anything that doesn't align with Trump These officers didn't give their lives to build a wall or see children die in their custody but that's the message their representative says.
I have worked side-by-side with USBP before, and they are usually the folks that'd give the shirt off their back, and then give you their canteen if you were thirsty. Seriously, folks you need to get your targets right.
That most heinous of all offenses: vandalism.
Most of America's southern border, in fact most of the southern desert territory, was a warzone until relatively recently (as in a century ago), and frankly the fact that people were fighting over it is the closest thing to an interesting quality that region has.
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