GOP student loan plan would automatically deduct monthly payments from paychecks - Polidicks

And then on top of that our big solution is to rely on a taxed UBI, which even in its current incarnation is only there to provide a minor floor, not replace the complete loss of jobs altogether. Automation as well, its absolutely destroying college level jobs as well. White Collar isn't safe, not even computer programming is safe for much longer.

I mean what levels of automation do you want to reverse? Do you want to go back to 1800's pre industrialism? Every task is done entirely by hand? Genuine question, I think automation will be problematic but automation takes so many different forms, what form of it are you talking about

I don't see how automation is going to increase consumption, because consumption isn't a product of production. Just because you can automate cell phone production doesn't mean more people will buy your phones. It just means you can produce your phones for less. I don't get your point here. The reason it is being done is because it is more efficient. That's the bottom line. It is more cost and time effective to have a robot flawlessly repeating a job than to pay a person to make more mistakes at a slower pace. Now to address your gross generalizations, I am adamant that it is going to happen, but I have never told anyone to follow their dreams of becoming an easily replaced worker. If someone told me today that they wanted to be a truck driver, etc., I would happily commend them for their lack of foresight. I agree. We really need to figure out how to restructure ourselves to adapt to this new paradigm shift in employment. Topics such as UBI and corporate tax reform are going to have to be key points in the next few election cycles, and they need to be addressed ASAP. Automation will essentially be the next technological evolution since the Industrial Revolution, and if we aren't at the forefront of that change, we will be way behind.

Proper Automation to my mind, is automation that doesn't disconnect us from productivity nor does it exceed our needs. A factory that work on its own without human hands is a factory that will rip apart an already badly damaged eco system because no one will care about what its doing because we're not there to see it. If a problem isn't in our face, we will often times ignore it as human nature so in that way Automation should be designed, like technologies original goal, which is to enhance and bring out the best of our natural tendencies. That's not happening, our systems are being designed using an instrumental rationality with a hard focus on Efficiency to a point where it violently destroys and disrupts things. Disruptions are a part of living, they're an additional challenge that helps us as a people from both the individual to the larger society. I'm not asking for a 1800s, 1950s, 1960s. I'm asking for us to approach our science differently, I'm asking that we explore it in a moral and ethical way that we historically haven't done and also include everyone which again hasn't been historically done. We see the effects of that today.

Automation is coming whether we like it or not. You cant stop the train of progress in industry. People will adapt as we integrate it into society over the next few decades. Your specific example of a workerless factory causing ecological disaster is a bit hyperbolic tbh. We couldnt feed the world we have without automation as it is. We cant feed the world of tomorrow without automating the world of tomorow

Here's the thing, driving automation is 99% software and image recognition. The actual "driving" part is easy af. You can bet your hemorrhoids that the next few years will see changes happen to automated driving. It's not going to be that expensive to retrofit a vehicle to have automated driving. Even if it is slightly expensive, these things operate 24/7, don't need breaks, don't need sick leave, don't need medical insurance, don't need holidays. They'll pay for themselves in a few months of operation, then bring in pure profit constantly.

@Octane , for what it's worth, the reason everyone's telling you your job is fucked due to automation isn't so we can be all "haha fuck you idiot shouldn't be a trucker". It's because you need to understand that this issue affects everyone, including you and simply learning a trade is not an adequate response.

wouldn't opting in to wage garnishment to pay the loan just be like paying your fucking loan like normal

The problem isn't people refusing to pay their student loans, because they'd basically be fucked six ways from Sunday if they're dumb enough to refuse to pay. Banks and lenders will work with you to find a reasonable balance of what you can afford to pay back, on the condition that you do pay and they probably fuck you with interest. With the inability to really remove student debt other than paying it or getting it forgiven via government programs like teaching in inner city shitholes, the problem isn't refusing to pay the loan. The problem is being unable to both pay the loan and live reasonably. Job prospects are poor for a lot of graduates, entry level positions don't pay well enough for the gargantuan amount of debt people have, and most graduates have consigned themselves to paying small tithes towards the loan for the rest of their life at the bare minimum. The problem is that we have a whole generation of people in huge amounts of debt that can't afford to pay it all off quickly. This is a solution to a non issue and doesn't even address the problem graduates have. I'm paying $530 a paycheck every two weeks and I hope to have my original start of $75k in loans paid off in ten years, because I'm living at home with a solid wage. Most people aren't that lucky to make what I make, or to have the option to live at home for cheap, or have no spouse or kids to take care of. Now tack crushing debt on top of that, which if you don't pay your credit score is fucked for the next 10 years and the odds of getting a loan, getting cheap rates on insurance, or even getting hired (employers sometimes check credit scores for stupid reasons) drops. It's frustrating how out of touch legislators are with the population.