Time to choose: UK Parliament set for crucial vote on May's Brexit deal
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How about just abandoning the whole idea you animated mop in a designer outfit?
The Letwin amendment has just passed! The government has been stripped of control over parliamentary business on Wednesday, and MPs will have the opportunity to propose their own Brexit plans (or Cancel Brexit plans) which will be put to a non-binding vote to try to find which options have the most support in parliament
So MP's can vote to hold a second referendum? Or at least vote to declare they'd like one.
The Speaker will select which amendments get an 'indicative vote' on Wednesday. Someone will probably put forward a second referendum amendment.
Also, I don't think anyone knows how the 'indicative votes' are actually going to work right now - there's a feeling that a normal voting procedure would be biased, because the first vote would be seen as 'its fine to vote this down because I think vote 3 will pass anyway', and then if all the other votes fail, there would be a lot of pressure to vote for the final option just so that something passes.
There is talk of MPs using some novel shit, like a ranked choice vote or a paper ballot system where they vote on all the options at once. It will be interesting and very unusual to see!
So does this mean we dont have to put up with may's brinkmanship anymore?
Unfortunately not. They just narrowly rejected (by 3 votes) the Beckett amendment, which would have allowed parliament to block No Deal if we ever get within 1 week of it
Absoloute fucking cunts.
I'm assuming, without looking at who is voting for what - the tories are being whipped hard into voting against these amendments.
Yep, but 30 of them rebelled and 3 cabinet ministers resigned to vote for the Letwin amendment
What i'm wondering is why they decided not to move Corbyn's amendment. did they decide that amendment a was the better option?
Odds of a revoke article 50 passing?
Im expecting a no, a referendum is more likely. A lot of our MPs' singular braincell is only focused on "REEEEEEE DELIVER BREXIIIIIIIT" so...
It seems like Corbyn's amendment was just 'pls hold indicative votes' whereas Letwin was 'we are holding them whether you like it or not' so I guess it wasn't needed?
Lmao Bercow REALLY pissed off the tories. Bunch of fucking children.
From what I understand Corbyn's and Letwin's amendments were functionally identical, given that Tory MPs would have voted against Corbyn's to follow party lines and that Labour MPs would have voted against Letwin's in response it would have been better to only run the one with the greater likelihood of succeeding (that being Letwin's given that the Conservative Party has a majority as slim as it is).
I don't think a revoke article 50 will pass, but I do believe holding a second referendum would be supported, purely because they can spin their democratic peoples vote angle and protect their careerism.
Corbyn's amendment being pulled at the last minute looks to have confused Tory MP Ed Vaizey, who accidentally went through both lobbies which counts as an abstention
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1110313324019941376
The hard brexiters aren't even hiding their true motivations anymore I see.
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We have members of Parliament referring to themselves using terms from the KKK and she doesn't even think to remark on it? What have we come to?
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"We didn't know guise!!! We just thought It sounded cool at the time"
The BBC is a fucking joke. Imagine their response if it was a group in Labour that did this.
What the shit, why did my post get deleted from this thread? @smurfy
I'm a little bit out the loop here, is there a system in place to prevent the event that the pro-Brexit options would divide the vote in a way that a second referendum would win even if the votes for pro-brexit combined would have beaten it?
Are you talking about the indicative votes? It's now been confirmed they will be conducted using a paper ballot which will list all of the options and allow MPs to vote "for" or "against" each. The votes will then be counted and announced all at once
was hoping that they'd do ranked voting for the sheer irony of it.
The petition on revoking article 50 will be debated in Parliament on Monday, probably won't result in much, but still, may as well sign it if people have not done so yet. I noticed that the leave without a deal petition from months ago that the revoking one is compared to is getting more people signing it, even though it was already closed and debated previously, but hell, it is the 'Will of the people' I suppose.
so just to get it straight, it's not first past the post? because that's a real big problem if it is, and a huge relief if it isn't
It's basically a series of separate votes bundled into one, MPs can vote for proposal A, against proposal B, for proposal C etc.
hopefully MPs will be smart enough to compromise and vote in favor of multiple soft-brexit options, it could be disastrous if the hard brexit camp consolidates and everyone else doesn't
