Time to choose: UK Parliament set for crucial vote on May's Brexit deal
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foul cunt
Tomorrow: House votes on whether to leave with no deal
Assuming the house votes AGAINST no deal, then...
Thursday: House votes on whether to extend A50
hee hee we're fucked
Are there ways the UK gets outta this without exiting? Or are they just gonna keep kicking the deal or no deal can down the road?
From what I understand our government could almost literally go into Parliament tomorrow and say "It is off, we are not doing it, we are going to Brussels to make our decision to remain more official". We could end it at any time, but won't, because "The People has spoken"
The EU has held out for ages that it's willing to let the UK just abort the whole thing and pretend it didn't happen, despite the economic damage the entire episode has caused the whole of Europe.
The only reason this isn't being trumpeted as the primary option is because the Tories are led by a Remainer who's too desperate to cling to power to pull the brakes, Labour is led by a Euroskeptic who's not afraid enough of the Remainer faction of his own party base, and everyone in politics is scared that aborting Brexit would cause Leavers to go crazy and throw tantrums and/or literal terrorism.
May specifically said something like "do we want to have a second referendum? this is a question we will now have to face" or something like that so who knows
going for the most extreme option based off a .2% majority of a voterbase that was barely half the population if that, will of the people PepoSpecial
Tomorrow will be interesting. I know that logically, "No Deal" won't pass, but the way things have been going it's hard to be certain. I'm certainly hoping it doesn't though.
It seems like a second referendum is becoming a real possibility.
Once again we have another bi-monthly Brexit chaos episode, the whole government goes Weak and Wobbly and then miraculously limps on like the Last Blast of the Blasted Bugler, missing several limbs, more teeth, yet another eye, and no longer capable of algebra yet still continuing to march onward like absolute fuckwits toward even more spinning blades from the same meat grinder that took their last few limbs.
More likely we'll just get no deal honestly at this rate
Looking forward to waking up on 30th March still in the EU lads
Or utter chaos with doubled food prices, riots, and all the assorted shit of no deal.
Wow that flow chart is very helpful! +1
Honestly i think the UK will just leave without a deal.
The riots part scare me, when they talk about having the army on the streets and then MPs say things like: Killings by British soldiers during Troubles were ‘not crimes’.
Problem is that we're basically due for riots however this shakes out, because whichever outcome we get, someone is going to be vehemently unhappy. Especially because even in their 'ideal' Hard Brexit/No Deal scenario, Brexiteers are not actually going to get what they want because it is an impossible fantasy.
Anna Soubry had a great speech during the debate earlier today
https://twitter.com/i/status/1105549441141014531
Best part of the night:
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1105561065549631489
I'm not so sure about that, I think most Brexiteers are too old to summon up the energy to riot.
Yeah I don't really know any die hard brexiters under the age of 50. I know a couple people who kind of support it but they don't really care enough about it to riot.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Most people I know that are filed enough to take action like that are in their 30's.
"what about a general election?"
To be fair, there were also plenty of 'No!!!'s. I'm rarely an optimist at the best of times, but I'm highly doubtful of a second referendum being made possible. Do enough MPs even want it? How many MPs are thinking about whether voting in favour of it would destroy them at the next general election? Ironically, you get your People's Vote if MPs decide we should be allowed one, and there's not enough of a push for it in Parliament. If only there was a competent opposition party.
A general election won't solve anything, I doubt any side will get a big enough majority to win on a brexit option and I highly doubt the EU will negotiate a new deal like Corbyn seems to want. They've given us their deal and that's that.
A people's vote comes top if just to break this deadlock, no other option seems possible to pass through parliament. There is no "everyone wins" option.
I feel like another referendum can't work only because the leave campaign will break all the rules again and as long as it takes just a simple majority to brexit there will be no real consensus for what britain should do. The slim majority for brexit is the problem they have since it doesn't spell out which brexit people are for and as you can see there's a huge split between the soft and hard brexiteers.
Can you imagine how much time and money has been wasted on this shit over the past few years
btw where is Boilrig? Haven't seen him advocating brexit for a while.
cold in the grave rip
Permabanned IIRC.
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