Looks like he isn't joining TIG/CUK
https://twitter.com/NickBoles/status/1112828931818881025
"Progressive Conservative"
Say what now?
Is this a thing in UK politics? As an American, this sounds like an oxymoron.
This thread is so badly named ...
It isn't, or at least this is the first I have ever heard of it.
So that’s it then? No Deal unless something miraculous happens in the next 11 days?
i can’t believe our government, no, our politicians are going to allow no deal to happen by fucking accident. useless cunts the lot of them. props to those that tried but they failed and now it’s the people who are yet again going to be on the ass end of an ass-fucking.
Boles is part of what was once the David Cameron wing of the Tory party, which is more socially liberal and less insane on matters like Europe, did stuff like introducing same-sex marriage. It used to be the dominant wing of the party but it's been battered since Brexit
Makes sense to me. I don't get the whole TIG/CUK thing. Wasn't the whole point being that they'd be independent? Tribalist party politics is contributing to the UK's constitutional problems, forming a new party isn't all that helpful.
Considering a large portion of Tories are moderates, you could argue it does exist to some extent. Boles is gay, for example, and it was under the Tories (though you could argue they were influenced by the Lib Dems) that same-sex marriage was introduced. I've noticed that in America, Conservatism is typically associated with traditionalism, some sort of religious background, and social conservatism, whereas British Conservatism (also coined liberal conservatism) mostly focuses on the economic aspect. Incidentally, we're also less afraid of socialism over here.
I don't see any other options at this point but:
1) No Deal on the 12th
2) Very long extension, UK ends up participating in European elections. Eventually ending in a No Deal or cancellation of Brexit.
Can we dock their pay until something gets sorted please, this is getting ridiculous
May's vote is supposed to be being brought forwards again this week for another vote and there is also the possibility of more Indicative Votes Wednesday or some point in the coming days. If either dose not materialise into anything then the EU have an emergency meeting next week to discuss Brexit where the possibility of another extension may be discussed depending on what happens over the next few days and if May has a plan of what to do with the extra time given.
In short if Parliament does not vote for anything then it is in the hands of the EU, then we shall see.
They need to use ranked choice if they do this again
You mean the system most of them campaigned against as being a literal boogeyman?
My prediction: No-deal Brexit happens via inaction/inability to follow simple instructions on an institutional governance level
I don't want my Brexit prediction to be right.
Customs Union 2.0 (273 votes, -3) (+5 net vs Friday)
Common Market 2.0 2.0 (280 votes, -12) (+83 net vs Friday)
2nd Referendum 2.0 (280 votes, -12) (+15 net vs Friday)
Withdrawal Agreement (286 votes, -58)
Labour's Plan (237 votes, -70)
Common Market 2.0 1.0 (188 votes, -95)
Revoke A50 before no deal (191 votes, -101) (-2 net vs Friday)
Meaningful Vote 2.0 (242 votes, -149)
No deal (160 votes, -240)
Contingent Preferential Arrangements (139 votes, -283)
EFTA + EEA (64 votes, -312)
What in the actual fuck am I witnessing.
This further reinforces my view that these cunts dont give two shits about my continued existence in this country.
I agree with pyro strongly, cut ALL their pay until this is resolved for better or for worse. Any progress is better than this really shit limbo we are stuck in.
GET US OUT OR KEEP US IN.
All I want to know is if I'm going to have a job or not have a job so I can at least get on with my life.
Thanks to the Lib Dem’s and CUK for abstaining. I’m sick of all of it now.
a general election is quite literally the only way to break the deadlock, yet you’d be deluded to think the tories would let the vonc pass.
Thus seems like a ploy to split the opposition to favor her deal.
Blame falls mainly on the Tories. Just look at the number of them that voted no on everything. On both this vote and the last.
The guardian pulled some statistics that said the Co servatives voted on average no 4/5 times, and the opposite was the case for the left leaning parties.
They are unwilling to compromise and are grinding this country into the dirt. Fuck em all.
The Tories being at fault is a given at this point. For me to post anymore about the terrible Tories would be wasting energy. LD/CUK know full well the game the Tories are playing by this point and if they refuse to play then they, as essentially the kingmakers, are at fault.
They were happy to lambast the Labour leadership for doing nothing for so long (even in some cases deliberately sabotaging Lab/SNP attempts to call for no confidence) yet now we're here really down to the wire, they're still fannying around trying to undermine the large party leaderships?
It's party politics with a friendly face from Lib/CUK. If we drive into a no deal Brexit, they will be absolutely complicit.
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So... possibly the Customs Union or a customs union™? I'm unsure what would be actionable while also being palatable to the Brexiters in her party to ensure it passes.
I thought EU would only another extension if there's a GE or a new referendum
Wasn't the cutoff for the extension right before EU elections? I'm not sure how that's going to work.
May herself has done a lot of that damage. Only a hypocrite could get up on stage and act like they're trying to solve this mess while being part of both what caused it and what's keeping it going.
Promising signs so far since May's statement
https://twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1113131892025503745?s=09
https://i.imgur.com/usnfckg.jpg
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