Time to choose: UK Parliament set for crucial vote on May's Brexit deal - Polidicks

It'll have more appeal to parliament as a solution to the current crisis as I've mentioned before. Right now we have to vote to extend article 50 and work out what (if any) other options have parliament's support

Man constitutional crisis sure is in fashion these days

These last few years have shown me more than ever that a government and law enforcement is just a bunch of people that agree to do something. And when they don't agree, it all breaks down.

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/203372/4fa13bb7-a2b4-4083-a644-6bd6278e59db/image.png God fucking...

There will be no delay for a second referendum, MPs will not be allowed to hold any indicative votes to create a new deal and/or developing alternate options. So it really is May's Deal or No Deal.

As that famous song goes: "Let's call the whole thing off."

Rest assured, this will be the third time we have voted on it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

There was going to be a vote to ensure that May would not put forward her deal again. The person who proposed it decided tor retract the motion. So now it is all on the big one.

So have those chucklefucks decided to sink Britain like Atlantis yet or nah When are they going to fix the gas leak under Parliament so your government can have a moment of clarity and call the whole thing off?

They have voted in favour of asking the EU for a delay. Which if Farage's plans to get his swamp buddies to veto it go ahead we still fucked with a No Deal.

These desperate movements to keep up the status quo will only last so long.

Says the man as he continues to walk confidently backwards towards a cliff edge as all the remoaners suggest he "looks behind him". Pfft, of course the liberal elite want him looking over his shoulder, but they weren't fooling him! Seriously, just because the status quo has a lot of problems, doesn't mean that all changes to it are good, especially when the whole goal of those in charge of it is to make everything worse for the average person.

Do you have anything of value to say or are you just to dump more meaningless statements like this, if you can't say anything of substance I'm sure you'd fit in better on the Daily Mail's comments section

Just don't reply to him, we already wasted enough time on Boilrig.

So, despite it being pretty much being party policy to peruse a second referendum 17 Labour MPs voted against it, 24 for it and 202 didn't vote at all.

There was a reason. https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1106240295698644992?s=20

Ah, right, fair enough. Really wish I had known about this sooner, or to that end, just about everyone else knew too as I can't help but feel this undermines their position slightly.

The majority of said average people voted to leave. Therefore it only makes sense that we leave the EU. It really doesn't get much more complicated than that. Can anyone imagine if it was the other way around and the majority of MPs were Brexiteers trying to defy the public decision?

52 people out of 100 said to walk blindly off a cliff, thus everyone must walk off the cliff. No looking over the edge, no time to prepare, everyone just gotta slowly walk off it. The referendum proved that the country was divided on the EU's role and partnership with the UK, not that everyone hated it and it had to go. Invoking article 50 straight after the results was pretty much trying to treat a bad leg by amputating it before even trying to find out what is wrong with it. And it turns out that just cutting off your leg is a lot more complicated than just saying "it's gone!"

A slim majority of those who voted, not a slim majority of the nation's population. Those two numbers are not the same thing.

The majority of "average people" are also fucking stupid. I can tell this statement is probably going to upset you greatly, deal with it. The public are bone idle and not qualified or educated enough to make decisions regarding international and domestic policy, that's why we have a representative government, and 99% of policy is not dictated by referendum. Because you're supposed to leave those decisions in the hands of people who know what they're doing.

Only if every single person voted to leave the same way. If even a few of those wanted a deal, but did not want to leave without a deal, then we can't interpret "leave" as "crash out".

Brexit is like Theresa May taking the whole country downhill on a bicycle screaming about how the brakes don't work and crashing into the wall at incredible speed is the only way it can possibly end despite the actual dozens of people clustered around the bike pointing out the brakes, jostling for position to push other people into grabbing the brakes because that might be a dangerous political move, with some trying to cut the brakes and push the bike faster because as it is it's barely moving because May is dragging her feet along the ground while loudly insisting that it's going much too fast to stop now, even though she and everyone else barely knows why she's on the bike in the first place or how it even got rolling or why it's so hard to stop

So, it looks pretty likely that we are now going to be voting in the European elections in May, and they're going to be easily the most important European elections ever held in the UK. It's going to end up symoblically being a defacto second referendum, and it's going to be mad.

If given a second vote, rather than remain I think I will vote to leave instead. I know it sounds dumb, and there's been good traction behind trashing Brexit altogether, but I feel that the EU has become such a brick wall in the negotiations that it feels like they won't even try to be flexible in their approach to Brexit - hence why Theresa May has to propose the same leave deal twice or three times. Thing is though, I also feel a lot of pressure on trashing Brexit is for the sake of business. We just have to look at the state of our economy right now to know that the business doesn't have anything in our favour. We get jobs that pay peanut packages and more and more jobs are becoming part-time or agency jobs - heck fairly sure the EU even has subsidies for some of these businesses hence why their stance is such that they want Brexit to fail entirely. I would still like to see a deal though, given that there's an incredible divide on how things should proceed if no deal happens.

Oh I'd love to see all the british tabloids today. They must have immensely salty headlines.

Joined today just to say that? You're correct in thinking that it sounds dumb, that's because it is dumb. The onus of failure is on TM, not the EU. All of these godawful negotiations have been because the UK has never been in the negotiating seat - they've always been the ones in the small chair. They've never had the upper hand. No wonder the EU aren't accepting a deal of "we'll just take everything we want but not this stuff nor are we gonna pay you" - why on earth would they? They're not imbeciles. Your point about not cancelling Brexit to save business is null because of low paid labour? What? How on earth would going through with the ordeal do anything but decrease wages and income? I don't understand what your arguments are because they don't make any sense.

I'm pretty sure that they're just a right wing concern troll. There's been a frankly suspicious number of "remainers" who are now all for a leave because "oh well they won" or "the EU aren't being nice to us!!". I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there's a concerted effort by the further right to concern troll like this in hopes of getting other actual remain voters to second guess themselves.

Their username is an anagram of "Brexit Disaster". Can we ban the troll please?

I lurk this forum, sorry if you found the name to be a troll. Sorry also if you found my opinions odd but I felt that the discussion on this thread had a huge bias towards remain etc. Don't get me wrong entirely this forum is great excusing the politics.