Time to choose: UK Parliament set for crucial vote on May's Brexit deal
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May's statement this evening, is totally meaningless, more so than any other buzz word or slogan she has made in any other part of her political career.
It does not matter if our nation's MPs back her deal next week or not as (as far as this whole mess is concerned) there may not even be a next week. In a matter of hours time, a vote will be called to decided if there will be an extension in order to allow to her deal to be voted on in the first place. All it takes is just one veto and we are leaving without a deal and they can do it for whatever reasons they want, doesn't even have to be about our deal or how we negotiated it, they could do it just because they themselves are Euro-Sceptics.
Signed the petition, hope it goes some way to proving that the "will of the people" isn't as straight-cut as some of the Tories would hope - to me, 51/48 is so incredibly slim that it isn't so much a declaration of intent as an admission of indecision.
However I don't hold much hope that the debate will be helpful - saying this due to an earlier debate upon a similar petition in which the very first remark after the opening statement went like this:
Mr Nigel Evans (Ribble Valley) (Con)
By the hon. Gentleman’s own logic, if 135,000 people have signed the petition, does that not mean that about 65 million have not? We should therefore treat it with the contempt with which he has treated the referendum result.
(Full transcript: https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-03-11/debates/4B98720A-8618-4312-84AE-E994485AC99F/LeavingTheEuropeanUnion)
(Other petition: Revoke Art.50 if there is no Brexit plan by the 25 of February)
Looks like we'll need 33 million signatures on this petition for some of the leavers to take it seriously. Let's get started lads.
There's also the People's Vote March in London on Saturday. The last one a few months back was one of the largest protests in British history
short update, already waay past 100k signatures.
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Nice thing about signing petitions/going to protests is that even if Brexit still happens, you can prove to people decades from now that you thought it was dumb even at the time and you tried to stop it
normally i wouldn't expect petitions to do much but at least parliament debating this one means another dunk on theresa
I signed it, and if I could go down to the march at the weekend I would. I am just so pissed off with this whole mess I just want to scream, shout and sing "We're not gonna Brexit" To the tune of "We're not gonna take it" As has been done so many times during the news coverage I have seen.
Worth noting that this other petition is currently the 2nd most signed open petition on the site, at ~369k: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019.
It might be a stretch, but if that number is surpassed before the debate it'd shoot down a potential argument that the largest amount of signatories on the site are the no-dealers. This argument has actually been made in a January debate upon the linked petition:
It is interesting to note that the biggest petition by far, with, last time I checked, over 327,000 signatures—more than all the others put together—is the one calling for us to leave without a deal. (http://bit.ly/2HcCYop)
Here's hoping.
Also let's keep in mind that the backstop of that cascade is Canada and South Korea, if I'm understanding the chart properly.
Canada and the EU just signed CETA a little while back. We don't need the UK when we've signed a trade agreement with the bloc they're currently falling down stairs on the way out of.
So uhhh good job, better get on that UK-South Korea trade deal and learn to like kimchi with your pint, Brits.
the petition has just past 200k, considering this was made today I think it should surpass it.
Especially considering that pro-Leave one must've been made in November, since all Petitions run for 6 months on the site and it expires in April.
Meanwhile, a petition made earlier today arguing for the inverse has nearly caught up with it.
This is all well and good but don't forget there's like 50 exhausted pensioners marching to London right now to Save Brexit.
I'm getting reports they're 30 minutes away from Parliament, Russian Tanks aren't far behind
this is what happens when your legislative body puts party over government. Trump should never have been allowed to have his businesses and should have been forced to submit for emoluments and May should never have been able to submit the same deal over and over again till the day of brexit but in both cases the legislators implicitly allow it all by inaction.
I think she screwed herself with the statement. MPs are furious with her, atmosphere is "funereal" apparently.
The revoke Article 50 petition has now surpassed the no deal petition.
Yes, sorry if I wasn't being clear enough.
I have some friends in the UK who would be greatly affected by a hard Brexit as well, so I'm not exactly hoping for it either.
I was actually hoping that the deadline would be extended, followed by a cancellation. Let's see if May comes to her senses. T-8 days remaining.
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WHEW. This is growing fast. Who knows something might actually come of this.
Who am I kidding, some Tory MP will probably talk for 30 mins condescendingly about respecting "the will of the people" and ignore it.
Have just signed this myself since I'm still a British citizen. Doing my part lads and lasses.
I do not like the Brexit.
Can we not do the fucking Brexit please.
Did you not listen to the PM?? You love Brexit! You want it done as soon as possible
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Okay so we can now say that so many people want to Revoke A50 that it broke the petitions site
Either that or they turned it off on purpose.
Wouldn't shock me. At all.
seems to be back, it probably was too many people signing or refreshing to see the count climb.
Signed it as well, in between all the 502's. Well over 600,000 now, vs 370,000 for leave. Reckon it'll beat the Leave petition by double?
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